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On 2007-10-15 20:45, Jonathan Townsend wrote:
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On 2007-10-14 12:20, Christopher Kavanagh wrote:
I just wrote Lee Asher about this. He should come here and post and he was involved in this effect.


I don't know about "should".

I doubt he had any interest in so deeply insulting Steve Dusheck or participaing in a team effort to offer a dubious product.


Jonathan, I'm sure Lee has had the most honorable intentions. But....considering how this has turned out and he was involved with it, I think he should come here and discuss it. He does when his creative work is taken without permission.
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Hi,

Lee Asher was the producer/director on the "easter egg" clip showing BJ Bueno and his creation "Digital Dissolve".

Lee appears at the end of the clip showing a spinning copper/silver.

As I recall that clip showed BJ Bueno talking about how Bob Elliot showed him the gaff and how Presley Guitar showed him the open thumb display.

Lee Asher is credited with the toss change.

Does anyone have this clip - it's interesting to see how the "invention" and performance is credited by BJ Bueno himself.

No mention in that segment of Steve Dusheck.

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No word from Lee yet or Theory 11 folks.
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On 2007-10-14 12:20, Christopher Kavanagh wrote:
I just wrote Lee Asher about this. He should come here and post and he was involved in this effect.


Did you write to via is regular email?
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On 2007-10-19 20:38, Jonathan Townsend wrote:
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On 2007-10-14 12:20, Christopher Kavanagh wrote:
I just wrote Lee Asher about this. He should come here and post and he was involved in this effect.


Did you write to via is regular email?


Yes. He always writes back, even when out of the country.
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Lee Asher answered my e-mail. I have to keep the contnt confidential, but Lee is taking the matter very serious and the theory11 team is working to resolve the situation.

Good man that Lee Asher!
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Sounds promising....I'll wait to see what they decide. In this instance though, silence isn't golden.
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Lee is old school and believes in crediting and integrity. My money is on him.
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Christopher,
Thanks so much for keeping after this as well as keeping us informed!
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Mick, my pleasure. We have a great community here and everyone respects the work of the artists whose shoulders we stand on. It's wonderful to see us all come together for the common good!
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I agree!
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The folkks at Theory 11 have posted about this on their site:
http://forums.theory11.com/showthread.php?p=24518#post24518
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I'm glad all the noise has FINALLY woke someone of high rank at T11 up but I am curious if they have been doing research or has it been damage control and CYA before now?!?!?!?
Again, I am glad that this has not been put to rest and that actions may be taken in Steve's benefit!
Now, where are we on Magic Makers "new" coins and effect.............. Smile
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Anyone have a problem of the coins talking during the move? for example, the edges of the half dollar grinding against the gimmick. kind of like when you were a kid and stuck a flattened soda can into the spokes of your bicycle to get that cool sound. maybe a bad example lol. ok, the same sound if you would get 2 quarters and rub together the edges. only thing I can think of is to grind down the ridges on the half so that they are semi smooth and will glide softly and silently. any ideas?
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Even a sliver of scotch tape should smooth the addon and remove. The Dusheck shove action was so quiet that I don't recall any noise on any gaff set (his slippery sam or his c/s transpo) I forget whether he put sticker on the inside of those sets. Was over twenty years ago.
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My "anytime" set up uses a clad half with good milling and I have a label type sticker in the SS and have no problems! Also set up so that you show "heads" up at the finger tips for a smoother push maybe less thumb pressure!
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Luna, you are far better off adding a thin sliver of tape or even nail polish to that place on the gaff where it scrapes than doing machine work to the innocent coin.
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I did this a few times in a performance this evening, and had that happen once.

I got talking in rehearsal, but if I get the angle correct -- no problem. I try to stay aware of that and rotate it a bit.

I almost think the gaff would be better if part of it was smaller, just enough to stop...
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I personally think the gaff is brilliant and find that the very little knack needed just takes knowing the orientation of your gear! I play with mine constantly so I know it intuitively!
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The gaff is brilliant and it belongs to Steve Duschek. If Theroy 11 gets Steve's permision ( after he turned them down and they went ahead anyway ) then we can move on. What will not be acceptable is is a mumbo jumbo "spin" on the events.

Theory 11's reputation is hanging on this.
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