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gillesA4 Special user Brussels, Belgium 593 Posts |
Hello!
Does anyone knows where I could find hollow brass weights (as used on Chinese balance scales in the 19th Century), used with a gimmick for a "Chink a chink" variation? Thanks! Gilles
We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them. (A. Einstein)
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Bill Thompson Elite user Mississippi 422 Posts |
School For Scoundrels was selling a set of these based on Dai Vernon's personal set now owned by Whit Haydn. Last I looked they were out of these. Maybe in the future they will produce a new run?
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gillesA4 Special user Brussels, Belgium 593 Posts |
I tried to mail them but got this "failure delivery" message...
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silverking Inner circle 4574 Posts |
I got that same message a week ago when I emailed them.
If you look in the return error message, it's because the mailbox is full.....or so says the error message. I've been looking for the SFS chink a chink set for a while with no luck. They're out of stock, with no announced plans to make any more due to some sort of issue with the original machinist who turned them. |
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gillesA4 Special user Brussels, Belgium 593 Posts |
I wanted to put this thread back on top of the list, just in case... We say in french: hope makes you live!
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silverking Inner circle 4574 Posts |
Put up a post in the "for sale" forum here on the Café indicating you're looking for a set.
I did just that a few weeks ago and had a response from a fellow Café member looking to sell their School For Scoundrels Chink-a-Chink set. They were brand new, he'd never used them. There's really nothing out there like the SFS set, it's worth the hunt for them. As I said above, the original machinist is no longer involved with SFS, so new ones aren't likely.....they would be quite difficult to make. |
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gillesA4 Special user Brussels, Belgium 593 Posts |
Thanks Silver, I'll give it a try...
We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them. (A. Einstein)
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magicdave56 Regular user Ellisville, MO 63011 195 Posts |
Do I need a extra bottle caps for this trick ?
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Bill Hegbli Eternal Order Fort Wayne, Indiana 22797 Posts |
James P. Riser makes the weights for Whit "Pop" Haydn and on Jim's website, it says this product is currently suspended. Seems there was only 2 runs on these weights.
You can try any or all of these to try and contact Pop Hadn: http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/bb_pr......ser=1984 |
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LeoH Elite user 437 Posts |
I wish you luck in finding the SFS chink=a=chink set.
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john wills Special user 939 Posts |
You could contact Auke van Dokkum and ask him if he can help you.
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Lawrence O Inner circle French Riviera 6811 Posts |
The three best chink a chink presentations I've seen (but I haven't seen all of them, even if ...) were Fred Kaps, Pop Haydn and Al Schneider.
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Pete Biro 1933 - 2018 18558 Posts |
... and Goshman.
STAY TOONED... @ www.pete-biro.com
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Lawrence O Inner circle French Riviera 6811 Posts |
True, and it was one of the tricks that he performed for my fourtyest birthday at home in Paris. I was so overwhelmed with the salt and pepper shakers that I had forgotten about it.
Now due to his handling of the rhythm, it's probably Al Schneider's showmanship that I preferred for this effect. An anecdote on Chink a Chink: when Johnny Thompson came to my home in Paris, I showed him my take on the effect and he showed me his. I loved his take more than mine as it was more direct, but he seemed to like mine better. As a result, I'm now following his path and the version he performed on his DVD is mine (with the sliding of the three props before the last journey for dramatization purpose) I'm still planning to change it for Al Schneider's quiet and slow handling that can be found on his DVD but I need to make the props travel towards the audience (in inverted T formation rather than in matrix or diamond formation) and write a proper metaphorical script where the travel of the last prop brings it under a spectator's hand.
Magic is the art of emotionally sharing live impossible situations
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Dr_J_Ayala Inner circle In search of Vlad Dracul and his 2169 Posts |
I love the Kaps, Schneider, Johnny Thompson and Goshman versions - they all have their own moments which create absolute astonishment, but I too probably prefer the Schneider version. It is slow, deliberate and elegant, almost like a slow waltz.
The Van Dokkum set is absolutely marvelous but it will not come cheap. I cannot remember where I saw them, but someone else was producing a cheaper but appropriately sized set for this effect as well. If I figure it out, I will post the information here. |
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Dr_J_Ayala Inner circle In search of Vlad Dracul and his 2169 Posts |
In one of those "Ah ha!" moments, I remembered that it was Whit Haydn in his School for Scoundrels store that carries the Jim Riser set of weights, which are exact replicas of the set used by Dai Vernon (and which, incidentally, are owned by Whit Haydn).
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silverking Inner circle 4574 Posts |
This last post is incorrect.
So just to keep the record straight: The exact replicas of the Vernon Chink-A-Chink set are the first ones made by Chris Reesman and Encore Magic for SFS back in late 2005, not the newer ones made by Jim Riser - which are a totally different shape, and have nothing to do with the Vernon/Reesman Chinka's. Haydn has the set Vernon carried in his close-up case, which were then used as the model for the Reisman/Encore/SFS set. The Vernon/Reesman/SFS set is hollow, and therefore very light weight. They're also somewhat larger and have a totally different shape and completely different manufacturing process than the newer Riser/SFS set. The Reesman set was spun as a set of cups would be spun, with a complex separate bottom piece afixed to seal it up and make it a "one piece" chinka. These were very complex pieces to make, and when Reesman stopped making them, that was the end. |
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Dr_J_Ayala Inner circle In search of Vlad Dracul and his 2169 Posts |
Thank you for that clarification - I hereby retract my previous post.
Further research has indicated that the Harry Riser set is actually more deceptive than the Reesman set because of the fact that they are much closer in size to one another, and that they are easier to use in many ways because they are not hollow. The Riser sets also have the weight stamped into each of the pieces in the set to give the complete, cohesive look. |
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Bill Hegbli Eternal Order Fort Wayne, Indiana 22797 Posts |
James P. Riser always puts his own designs and thinking into everything he makes, he does not make exact copies of any magic appratus. At least I have never found him to do so.
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Dr_J_Ayala Inner circle In search of Vlad Dracul and his 2169 Posts |
Sheesh- stupid auto correct. Of course, I meant to say James Riser, not Harry.
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