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ShawnB
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On 2007-11-01 16:25, Salby wrote:
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What is "Patina"?


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Patina is the dark accumulation that occurs on coins (or cups) after a great deal of handeling.

Coins like Walkers Morgans or Barbers have a great deal of black patina. While copper coins turn more of a brown. Patina on old silver coins is absolutly beatiful.
It accumulates in all of the relife of the coin and gives it a nice aged look...
Shawn.
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Patina is not the crud that accumulates but the subtle colors that go dark with age that form from oxidation on a clean surface. Wonderful rainbows and soft smudges of blue and voilet... Smile
...to all the coins I've dropped here
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And here I thought it was the coach for Penn State football.. Smile ..
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With the Magic Warehouse, if a coin set is out of stock, just keep calling back. I did get a hopping half set from them and am pleased with it. You can also send coins to Johnsons directly for them to be worked. Contact them at 626-445-1411. Not sure of the price for custom work though.
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Anyone purchased their Walkers C/S/B set? Any good?
rutabaga
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I have a set on the way... I'll let you know how it checks out.
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I would most heartily encourage anyone here...if you're doing some serious work on this, spend the bucks, go with the Schoolcraft stuff. If you're just an occasional hobbyist, go with the manufactured stuff (Johnsons, Tango, whatever). I've bought several pieces from Jamie, all of it's beautiful craftsmanship and fits perfectly with what I'm doing as a performer.

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Well, I received the Johnson Walking Liberty CSB set, and it's not bad at all. The Centavo and Chinese Coin are a little on the thick side, but nothing disturbing. I'm very impressed with the fit of the shell. The half dollar comes tails up, and you'll need to find your own regular half to match. All in all it's a decent set.

But I agree with Rick, if you're more serious than I am [for now anyway!], go the for Schoolcraft or Lassen. Their coins are SO much nicer than the Centavo/Chinese Johnson combo.
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Thanks for the review rutabaga. I actually have a set made by Auke van Dokkum in Walkers, East African and Peruvian coin but I find the gimmick a little thick (compared to my Johnsons set) and the edges kinda bug me. There's millings on the gimmick (obviously) but there are non on the normal East African coin. I was caught a few times with ppl noticing that the millings "disappear" when I allow them to examine the coins in the end (I use Cody Fisher's routine btw)
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You'll find a similar milling issue with the Johnson set...
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Yes I know but the thickness of the gaff is more prominent with the custom set as compared to the Johnson's set which will amplify the visibility of the millings. Maybe it was just my set I dunno.
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Hmmm, I tried out the routine that comes with the Johnson set tonight, and the milling difference was spotted by the spectator. Luckily the routine "confesses" to the extra coins, so it was just a case of "did you know your two chinese coins have different edges?" Makes me wonder about routines where the extra's aren't shown [Dan Watkins' CSB Assault comes to mind]. Anyone else have a problem with this?

How are the Lassen/Schoolcraft sets in this regard?
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If spectator's are allowed to get a good solid look at the edge, there is a chance of them catching the two tone edge.

This is why I never do either the original rotuine (or some of mine) with the dollar size sets. I only use the dollar size for spellbound type shows where you only show the face of the coins.

CSB Assault is performed with the spec looking down on half dollar size coins, I haven't had any problems with it.
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