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Christopher Williams
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When I spoke to Greg Wilson about them he was furious! This was when the Reserve DVD was released, with an addition which was identical to Greg's. But he said there was nothing he could do. He could fight, call them every name under the sun, but he can't do anything legally. Stiff will only release an item he knows he can get away with releasing and not getting done by.

He will either Rob you or Stiff you guys!
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Alan Rorrison
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Waah waah weahh. A lot of crying from you all when rob is jsut trying to bring us magic cheaper.



















Yes that is a joke I hate the guy and company too... this post is here for the comic releif lol

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Smile Thanks, Alan, for the laugh!!!

Yes...Magic Makers is a joke as well and this IS a total rip. And not even a good one at that.

Mark.
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IMHO, Magic Makers has made it almost impossible for local magic shops to carry only top quality products as Magic Makers builds in a lot of profit. Profit, is the driving force and that is the big thing. Until we decide that we are threw with products made in China, India and other third world countries, I would look for this trend to continue. Knocking off everyones products... Isn't just Magic Makers, its a whole slew of companies. Please no hate mail...this is just my oppinion.
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Does anyone know who the kid is in the picture on the MM website on the illusion coins page? Thought it was weird to see that kids pic and Ben Salinas in the demo... Smile
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So now we know the score: nothing illegal is being done. Magic is no longer a few tried and true Magcicians contributing to the art. It's a rough and tough business where anything goes.

Chrildren, welcome to the real world. Hey, it was a little sheltered community for thousands of years. It was a good run.

I'm sure the Mob didn't like losing Las Vegas to the corporate giants!
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I'm sure the Mob didn't like losing Las Vegas to the corporate giants!


Fortunately the corporate giants didn't build the Luxor out of cheap plastic!
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Best thing to do is not shop there if you don'tt like it.
Dmann
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Going to be very difficult to find a dealer that doesn't carry Magic Maker Products. Maybe there should be a list of dealers that refuse to carry their products so that we may all know who they might be. Fortunately the corporate giants didn't build the Luxor out of cheap plastic, just off the back of cheap plastic.
Steven Conner
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On 2007-10-11 14:48, Dmann wrote:
Going to be very difficult to find a dealer that doesn't carry Magic Maker Products. Maybe there should be a list of dealers that refuse to carry their products so that we may all know who they might be.


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On 2007-10-11 12:49, Majestic12 wrote:
Does anyone know who the kid is in the picture on the MM website on the illusion coins page? Thought it was weird to see that kids pic and Ben Salinas in the demo... Smile


I have heard (not sure I should say from whom) that Ben Salinas is not on the DVD you get when you buy the trick. I don't know who is, or exactly what's taught.

If true, this is another instance of "What you see is not what you get". Raise you hand if you're at all surprised.
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Justin N. Miller
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Be Amazing Magic Shop in Columbus,Ohio has morals and good ethics.

Your right it is going to be hard. But I have taken a step towrds "preaching the gospel truth" I will not do a lecture for any shop that carries magic makers rip-off's. I know I will get a lot of flack for that but my mind being right before God is more important to me than a few hundred dollars.

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You can add Elmwood Magic at http://www.elmwoodmagic.com to the list of reputable stores that do their very best to avoid stocking anything from Magic Makers. Paul and crew have always been my first and only recommendation to supply people with top quality products and excellent service. I am sure if you are looking for a place to pickup your next effect they will treat you right.

--Jim
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Someone should write up an article about Magic Makers and submit it to Genii or Magic Magazine to help get the word out.
Review King
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On 2007-10-11 22:12, THEGUY26 wrote:
Someone should write up an article about Magic Makers and submit it to Genii or Magic Magazine to help get the word out.


Don't they advertize in those Magazine? Steve Brooks won't let them advertize here.
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THEGUY26 (Will Swanson)
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Actually, I'm not sure if I have seen them advertized in magazines.
Dmann
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If I were keeping score on trusted Magic Shops that don't carry Magic Maker Products at all, It might look something like this...

Denny Magic
Be Amazing Magic Shop
Elmwood Magic

That seems to be the score so far.

Theguy26, there isn't any Magic Magazine that is going to write a detremental article about them. Magic Makers makes up a lot of their advertising budgets and the legalities that would be involved would be unreal. Face it Magic Shops need companies like Magic Makers, Mak Magic, and many others to help them show a profit. Most aren't going to care about the rights of others when it comes to the success or failure of their business and showing a profit. Just MHO.
Justin N. Miller
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On 2007-10-11 04:40, Christopher Williams wrote:
When I spoke to Greg Wilson about them he was furious! This was when the Reserve DVD was released, with an addition which was identical to Greg's. But he said there was nothing he could do. He could fight, call them every name under the sun, but he can't do anything legally. Stiff will only release an item he knows he can get away with releasing and not getting done by.

He will either Rob you or Stiff you guys!


So true Christopher.
Greg relayed the same thing to me as well.

Justin N. Miller
Dmann
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One more Example... There is a new DVD by Magic Makers out....Underground Magic
You are about enter into a world where magic has no boundaries! On this DVD you will learn 24 tricks that defy reason.
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