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the_hidey New user Chris 63 Posts |
lol I agree. No point in half learning sleights... get 'em good!
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jr_illusion New user USA 67 Posts |
I got all of my DL info from an allmagicguide.com post a long time ago. That really helped, and now I have confidence in my DL. The most important part, to me anyways, is the get ready and how you flip the card over. At first, I turned a single card over differently than I turned a DL over. So, I modified both so they look the same. If you turn 2 cards over the same way you turn 1 card over, it's impossible to notice that you have a DL
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Jonatan B Veteran user Gothenburg, Sweden 342 Posts |
I have recieved some complaining here and I think that this double I described is only an easy way to go if you still want to be able to do a double lift natuarally. In this way; If you are a beginner...
Answer me this please: If you would see a specator show a card (if he held the deck), do you really think that he would flip it over on the deck or just show the top card in the air? I must say that I still prefer the flip-over on deck method and I am using it too.
Jonatan Bank
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alexhui Inner circle Hong Kong 1956 Posts |
I think Jonatan B has his points here, though I don't agree with showing any trick before mastering it.
IMOP,DL is a easy sleight to learn but difficult to master. For those who just begin, I suggest you to take the top card as a misdirection for the b***k. Then you can to the DL comfortably. One point to mention, choose one DL and practice it until you master it. Don't be too ambitious and go for several sleights at the same time. For those who master the DL, I suggest that don't do any get-ready before you do DL. You can have a clearer sleight in this way. Use the natural break or pinky count or whatever. Just remember, the properties of cards are your great tools in performing good magic. Alex
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j_juge New user 91 Posts |
Arturo de Ascanio had a great theory on the DL ...
Greg Wilson's Double Take is a video only on the DL In Daryl's Ambitious Card, you can learn a lot of DL technics |
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Alex Linian Inner circle Peru 1277 Posts |
My best tip on the double lift is this: when doing a double lift, IMAGINE YOU AREN'T DOING IT!
Think about it, If you turned a card over on top of the deck, you wouldn't even have to look at the cards. This of course depends on what effect you are performing. Some of my favorite double lift's come from ken Krenzel. They are: -Natural Double Lift -Drag Lift. Another tip I came up with was giving the deck a slight bend in the middle, by pulling down on left and right sides of the deck. this is done before the double turn-over is made. After the top two cards are flipped over on top of the deck, they will be bent slightly upwards in the sides. By pushing with the left thumb along the left of the face-up cards, both cards will move, perfectly squared, to the right. It will now be easy to flip them back down. Hope this helps, Alex Linian
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Tom Gaddis Regular user Maui 143 Posts |
Chris,
One of the best DL out there is the Vernon/Finley DL. When done properly it's invisble. It also works no matter the condition of the cards. This is the DL that Vernon used to fool Houdini several times. You can see Ron Bauer demonstrating this DL at http://www.thinklikeaconjurer.com. Go to products and click on the cover for the "Mechanical Deck." Then down load the DL video. It's only about thirty seconds and there's no explanation, but you'll see what a good DL should look like. To learn this DL I recommend you buy "The Mechanical Deck." It's only ten dollars and has the most complete description of this DL. Plus you get a great trick to use it in. Hope this helps and good luck, Tom
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Gary D Loyal user London, England 234 Posts |
Tom..is this vernon one you're talking about..the vernon light lift or the push off where the double is pinched between the thumb and middle finger of the left hand?
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dmk_kirkland Loyal user 256 Posts |
Gary, the one Tom is referring to is described in Expert Card Technique. Essentially it is a method of getting a break under 2 cards, followed by a simulated push off movement.
To see it in action watch Ron Bauer's clips for the Mechanical Deck routine.
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dynamiteassasin Inner circle Naval Air Facility, Atsugi, Japan 1158 Posts |
I don't know with you guys but a double lift is fairly easy but needs practice. What really needs time to master is a double "turnover". A lift is basically just a lift. You lift the double cards and show the face. A double turnover is where you show 2 cards as one as you flip it perfectly squared.
I suggest you practice more and more. Eventually you'll get better at this. And do it normally. Minimize the thought that you are doing a sleight and it will look natural.. |
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david_a_whitehead Inner circle USA 2122 Posts |
A double lift as far as I know in magic literature also refers to a double turnover. And to say even a lift is easy is ludicrous. There are many tells to get rid of and lots of other stuff to think about and master.
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Paul Chosse V.I.P. 1955 - 2010 2389 Posts |
There is definitely a difference between a double lift and a two card turnover. And each technique has its' uses. Each is difficult to master. The literature has used the term double lift to refer to both techniques, and this adds to the confusion for neophytes. I use a dl when I want to flash the face of a card in a casual manner. I use the TTT when I want to focus more attention on the card. Your needs should dictate your selection of methods. What do you want the audience to think when you display the card? this should help you determine which technique is best...
Best, PSC
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Niko Special user England 599 Posts |
If you do a double lift by holding the cards in the Biddle Grip position, i.e. end for end; thumb on inner short end, index finger on outer short end, it keeps the cards together and stops them from separating and is easy to hold and show the back etc.
There is no fear of card separation here and as long as yopu put a slight bend in the cards, no one should see that there are two cards. -Niko
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