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I'm not really sure where to post this topic but I thought I would start it here.

A long time ago, my grandma sent me an email with David Copperfield on it. I'm sure some of you have seen this. It was a card trick through the email. First six or so court cards were shown and you were asked to think of just one and scroll down. When you scroll down There was a picture of David and you were told to stare into his eyes and think of your card. When you scroll down further, there was the same photo and you were asked to keep staring into his eyes and think of your card. I think there were like three of these photos of David in which you were told to stare at. Finally the screen displayed the cards again but only five of them. The card you were thinking of vanished!

Many of you will already know how this works and might recognize this as the princess card trick. It's a good trick and many variations of the idea are available. Of course, when I saw the trick, I wasn't fooled by it but thought the email was cute. My grandma said she was really amazed and fooled by it. I was ok with the email until I got to thinking that maybe putting this trick on email only gives a person better opportunity to keep seeing the trick and hence finding out how it works. If there are a bunch of people who figure it out, There are many effects that won't fool them now, some of which I do. I'm starting to think that this really isn't the case, though. Here's why:

It seems this email has been stalking me lately. The other day, I was practicing some card stuff at a local bagel shop, and some elderly ladies came over to me and told me about a trick they saw lately that really amazed them. They told me it was through the computer on their email and it was from David Copperfield. I immediately knew what they were talking about but before I could tell them this they went on to explain it. They explained that they thought of a card "stared into his eyes like a dummy" (exact words) and it was gone. They said they had no idea. One of the ladies said, she knows about "fast hands" and "doing stuff with out you seeing" but she couldn't figure out how David Copperfield knew which card she was thinking of through "the computer". They said they did it like "a hundred" times and no matter what the card was gone. I was amazed that they didn't figure it out after doing it over and over. To me, that only gives away the method, but for them it was even more amazing. It started to convince me that maybe I overlooked the effect this email card trick has on laymen.

This happened again today at school in the campus library. There I was walking in when I heard the clerks get excited yelling "It was the Jack of Diamonds...oh my god..how does he do that!". Of course, like any self-repecting magician who hears someone yell out a card, I went over to see what was happening and to see if this was the opportunity to amaze some people. I asked them what was up and they showed me an email on their computer. It was the same freakin email! They were boasting about how amazing it was, they were showing everybody it, and one of the girls was saying that she's done it like 20 times in a row and it works everytime. I tried not to laugh, I thought that this was a dead give away. Then again I am a magician ,and I think of card tricks differently. Everbody around had done it at least a few times and were only more amazed each time they did it. Now I am convinced that this seemingly see-through effect, is a killer one. (when I say seemingly see-through I mean based on repeat viewings). I was so amused by their comments. One girl said she even changed her mind while she was scrolling down, and it still worked.

Normally I would see this as an opportunity to show her something similar as she was already excited about magic. I reached into my pocket for Limited Edition (Jennings and Bean), but it wasn't there! If there was ever a great opportunity to perform this effect, this was it. I was disappointed that I forgot to have it on me today. I was thinking of something else I could do that was similar, but all I had was a regular deck on me and I don't know any ungaffed princess card tricks. I ended up doing other stuff for them and all went well but I really wish I knew an ungaffed version of the princess card trick.

I spent the next hour working out a handling and I have some good ideas now, but none are as clean as a gaffed version. I guess that's the point of gaffs. If I have the gaffs on me, I will use them without hesitation but I am now interested in any ungaffed tricks that have the same feel as The Princess Card Trick. If you have any ideas or sources for this type of effect please let me know. Thanks!
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Funny that you mention the email about this.
I got the same Copperfield one from an associate last week and he was totally amazed.
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Jquackc, can you provide the link?
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It used to be on his website. If you want it send me a PM.
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Yep...for those who don't know this effect, it's a head scratcher!

Mark. Smile
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On 2007-10-22 21:44, evolve629 wrote:
Jquackc, can you provide the link?


http://wesawthat.blogspot.com/2007/04/da......ick.html

This is what it looks like.
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There's another site that does this trick and then it explains how this is done -
http://urbanlegends.about.com/library/bl_card_trick.htm
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JC,

I thought this email I received was way back to even before I started to learn magic... What a good sharing experience to us.

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Heh, heh,

I remember a bunch of us looking at this (it was at a website, rather than an email) and thinking, "Huh? How did that happen" when suddenly we realized that there were 3 of us and three of us were thinking different cards and all three thought-of disappeared and yet there were 5 cards on the screen. That made us look more closely which, of course, led to enlightenment Smile.

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On 2007-10-23 08:38, gzhdavid wrote:
Heh, heh,

I remember a bunch of us looking at this (it was at a website, rather than an email) and thinking, "Huh? How did that happen" when suddenly we realized that there were 3 of us and three of us were thinking different cards and all three thought-of disappeard and yet there were 5 cards on the screen. That made us look more closely which, of course, led to enlightenment Smile.

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This is the fatal flaw in this use of the princess trick. If several people together try the trick, and all think of different cards, it doesn't take long for "enlightenment" to follow.
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I've had this happen to me with the princess card trick. The only time it failed on me is when two people thought of a card. Then again, I was in the library when some people were looking at their email... The girls said that they both thought of one and it disappeared. They didn't realize, that if it worked for both then there would have been two cards gone. I think by that time they were already amazed and convinced that they failed to see the discrepency. People do want to believe.

I was sessioning last night with a couple of magicians here in Denver and we were talking about this email and the Princess Card Trick. I was told by a friend of mine that this kind of email was popular a few years ago and people would come up to him and say they figured it out. He then went on to demo Limited Edition for them and completely fooled them. I guess the gaffs (princess cards)are more deceptive than a switch(the email). Especially a switch that you can keep reviewing over and over until you figure it out.

We brainstormed a couple of ideas on doing the princess card with regular cards. A couple versions came up, I guess Sankey has a version and I was shown an Ackerman trick that had a similar feel. I have even come up with my own. I was wondering if any of you have any work on this, or know of any routines out there that have the same feel as the princess card trick, but with regular cards. I am fully aware that these versions will never be as clean or fair looking as a gaffed version but it would be nice to know a few. thanks
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Theres a version I forget exactly, where that's not as fair because all the cards go in the pocket but you put 5 cards on the table face down (any 5 cards). You give them all numbers (1-5) and you ask the spectator to think of a number and to look at the card at that number while you turn you back. You then put the 5 cards in your pocket and try to divine what card the spectator is thinking of, so you start taking cards out of your pocket until theres 4 on the table. Then you ask what position their card was. Say they name 3. You say "I just needed to know where to put it" and you take the last card out of your pocket face up and its their card.

You can develop a better routine but that's how it's taught. I can PM you about it if you'd like. I also have a version with a little setup with normal cards and a quick switch. You use 6 cards, get someone to look at one then you cause one card to vanish (ala tent vanish or whatever you want) and the card they thought of is gone and theres only 5 cards left.

The first one uses normal cards as well I forgot to mention and uses ANY 5 cards.
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On Jim Pace's Visu-antics, there is his Impromptu Princess. This might be something you'd be interested in.
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Years ago I carried this around with me and got very good reactions. However, six or so times in a row when I performed it, the trick failed me. The spectators that I performed it on didn't actually memorize their card, just the value so of course they would think the card was still there. Another flaw, unless they pick the Jack.
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I didn't know til now that the Princess Card trick involved gaffed cards. I learned it from Hugard's Encyc of Card Tricks, using regular cards. If you pocket 4 cards, you can memorize them in order and reproduce the one thought of from your vest pocket! One flaw is that they cannot think of the 'obvious card' (usually KD).
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It seems amazing that lay people can't figure out some simple methods. It probably just shows magicians that their perfectly honed Marlo-inspired methods pale in comparison to a wonderful effect.
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Hmmmm I had never seen this before, and I figured it out without within probably 15 seconds.

Sometimes magic works because people are dumb.
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Uh, nice Jim. Just because you figured it out doesn't mean people are dumb. Not all principles work for all people. But a lot of people are fooled by this.

David Regal has an almost impromptu version which can be made impromptu in his book Close Up And Personal. It's a very good version because it seems incredibly fair. Heck, t might have even fooled you, Jim.
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One of my favorite sayings when listening to people babble on about they heard cures coughing, or the best way to memorize vocabulary, or whatever I encounter on a daily basis, is "just because you and millions other feel it should be true doesn't necessarily mean it is true."

The same applies here.

Just because we want to believe that the guys who spend hours perfecting extremely difficult sleights are the best card magicians who can do the best tricks does not always make it true. People are very likely to over analyze something and miss the obvious. My favorite pub trick (as performed by one of my best friends) is where a spectator touches a card or two and then the barman returns (from wherever) moves his hands over the cards mysteriously and can without fail tell you how many cards were touched, and which they were. The reason, I tell him. They always ask me how it is done (since magicians should know) and I always say, "I have researched it for as long as I've known him and I can still not figure it out." They believe me and they think he is great. Isn't that what magic is all about?
P.S. The reason most people would be able to figure it out is because you are reading the effect and not actually going through the motions of scrolling down wondering what will happen next. There is a huge difference. I saw this in Powerpoint format and it is actually very good because you can not scroll up or down.
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@jquackc: you could perform the Brainless Travellers, which is not exact the same but is impromptu and has a similar effect: They think of a card and it vanishes from one packet and appears in another packet. And you can even do it with 2 spectators at the same time!
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