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Jamie D
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C.W.G I'm glad you posted this post as I have recently got into hypnosis as well. I started with self hypnosis by dick stuphen then got Nongards learn hypnosis,a really good book that I'm reading now is medicine of the mind by Dr Michael D.Preston,again I no nothing of hynosis as to what every one else here has posted but I have found this book to be very knowledgeble.I'm looking foward to joining more of these post in the furure when I no more lol

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IMO, one convincing convincer is enough. If you're not sure, you might want to do two or even three. Remember, each convincer can also be turned into a deepener. However, I don't think doing more than three is really necessary.
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I don't do any convincers or sug tests b4 induction.. maybe I'm skipping a traditional step.. but.. my type of crowd would think its cheesy... I jump right in
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Cheesy? I'm not sure why. are you early teens?
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Kingjay, a convincer is designed to prove someone is hypnotized. Why would you do one before inducing hypnosis?

It's not a traditional step to convince someone they're hypnotized before they are hypnotized.
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Sorry to drop this in here,
what is IMO?

kingjay,
no tests?/convincers?
cheesey?
jump right in?
please shed some light on your opener and audience id would love to hear what your
show is all about, it sounds v interesting
thanks
Anthony Jacquin
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You can of course use them post induction. That is fine. I also use convincers in the run up to an induction. It convinces people they are about to be or are being hypnotized. If the subject happens to be extremely good at them - by that I mean their unconscious response is strong and they are fighting the effect and losing then I will often turn it into the induction.

I admire KingJays approach if he just goes straight in for the induction.

It's all good Smile

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Let me clarify.. I don't do any of the traditional "sug tests" .. like "okay everyone... clasp ur hands..etc..look !bur fingers are magnetic..etc" .. I know a lot of people do.. but my crowds are 21-40 y/o drinking... "hollywood hipster" types.. to them, that's cheesy... theyre "too cool" for that.. (but not to cool to have sex with a chair?) ... like I said.. maybe I'm skipping a traditional step?? to me.. its wasting time , I could be getting into the "real" show. my crowd would rather see girls on chairs, than theyre hands clasped! that's all .. do what works for you! (maybe I just get lucky)
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Btw-thanks anthony for admiring my approach... I hope to oneday get to your level of mastery.... I consider myself a "new school" hypnotist .. I'm just a rocker, in it for the fame, girls, drugs, money... far from traditional
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IMO= In My Opinion.

Anthony, I guess it's a matter of word choice. It's true that we can use the same techniques before or after induction. Before induction I would refer to them as suggestibility tests. After induction I would refer to them as convincers.

However, I generally would not use the same techniques pre and post induction. Everyone works differently.
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Quote:
On 2009-03-23 19:31, kingjay wrote:
Btw-thanks anthony for admiring my approach... I hope to oneday get to your level of mastery.... I consider myself a "new school" hypnotist .. I'm just a rocker, in it for the fame, girls, drugs, money... far from traditional


Hey!!! Don't you think for one minute mister that Anthony doesn't get his fair share of fame, girls, cucumbers and money!,
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kingjay
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Cucumbers??!! awesome.. didn't even think id score those! ... sweet
Decomposed
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The 8 step method Im studying has suggestigility tests before induction then 3 convincers during induction. I will he bappy when I can just "wing" it. Smile


PS: Experience level: 7 yr old daughter (unknown induction) and stuffed Dora doll (pretty sure under each time, she has that stare).

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Like Kingjay I don't do suggestibility tests or convincers. I do a warm-up - gags and mentalism. Then I jump into the induction. It works for me. It is faster and mors showey than the more traditional approach.
As regards the original question - never practice on friends or family. Memorise your script thoroughly, then jump straight in. My first induction was carried out during my first stage show. If you do this, pretend that you are a world famous expert, and walk on stage as if you believe it. Your confidence will carry over to your audience.
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Confidence to me is the greatest hurdle.

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