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Corbett
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I am considering options for my first flipper. I know that most of the standard flippers have an external band, requiring the "groove" on the insert. For those of you that use this type of coin, how visible is the groove, and do you worry about it being noticed? Some of the more expensive custom gaffers who make the gravity flippers, have the band on the inside, eliminating the need for a groove on the insert. Seems to make sense, but of course you pay dearly for the difference in products. I guess my question is, is is worth the extra $? Or does the groove go unnoticed anyway?

Roy Kueppers makes a very affordable gravity flipper that operates just like the big boys, but does not have an internal band. Just looking for some sound guidance from you Café vets. Thanks in advance.
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Corbett,
Welcome to the Café!
I've owned most of the flippers made and the band has never been an issue however the "move" used to show 2 coins with the non gravity flippers is the main reason I switched to gravities! If you can afford the difference, I think you'll be happier with a gravity!
Mick
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Mick,

Thanks for your feedback. I'm encouraged to hear that the groove on the insert has never been an issue. As I mentioned, Roy Kueppers has a gravity flipper, but by his own admission the band is on the outside of the insert, and the groove is not invisible. I have an expanded set from Roy and I know he does good work. So, your advice is not to worry about getting "caught" with the groove?
MickeyPainless
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It's all in how you handle your coins and manage the orientation of the gaff!
Mick
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Mickey is exactly correct on the above! The groove shouldn't be a problem as long as you present it as Mickey states.....
Where I go, so do my coins.....
Corbett
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Thanks both of you guys for the feedback. This advice is certainly helpful.
Mike Walton
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Quick note - for performance ease, please do go with the gravity flipper; you will thank yourself later. I purchased a Johnson flipper that I worked with for a while but couldn't break it in to provide a consistent effect that looked natural. You can not use it "out of the bag" as it's too tight, so you have to try to loosen the bands and even then, it requires an unnatural move to snap it up to get past the tension point. I had such problems with the Johnson and couldn't create a flow of movements that looked natural.

While the Johnson is cheaper, improvements in the "flipper" mechanics have indeed been made. I have a Jamie Schoolcraft flipper that works like a dream and did so from when I received it. It moves smoothly and even slowly if required.

I sold the Johnson after a couple weeks of struggle. Avoid the traditional flipper. Even if I didn't buy Schoolcraft's flipper, I would have sold the Johnson flipper anyway or given it to someone to level a table leg, it was that bad.

Note to Johnson, do something with your flipper.
Corbett
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Thanks Mike. Note taken.
MickeyPainless
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Actually of all the traditional flippers, I think Johnson is the best!
It's the "move" with the traditional that most people don't care for! In fact you can do a little tweaking on a traditional and get it to work better but still not with the ease of the Schoolcrafts I own!
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