|
|
|
|||
| Go to page [Previous] 1~2~3~4 [Next] | ||||||||||
CesaralM.jpg "View Profile") Loyal user 276 Posts 
|
Mr. Ree,
Regarding your point 1), that is one of the reasons why I advice to use the clear plastic bubble for the second part of the effect in which you give the bulb to an audience member. In this second part the bulb glows for a longer time, and thus that detail you mentioned can be "covered" by this justified way. Of course there are many other ways like using a hankerchief for example...it will depend of course on the presentation... Regarding your point 2), take into account the 50%-60% of discount that normally the distribution channel takes from the retail price. Note also that you pay more things apart from the components and so on...As an example, the cost of producing one CD or DVD is about 1$, and it is usually sold for 35$...what about this margin? Do you know what are you paying for? With the books and the rest of magic items happens the same. So, the price is related to the use you will give to that item. Just my opinion...I hope it helps! Cesar Alonso (Cesaral Magic) |
|||||||||
darrylasher Regular user 179 Posts
|
I wouldn't use it in any serious demonstration.
Heck, even when I was a kid in the 60s, the self-lighting bulb never fooled me. I would laugh whenever I saw someone present it as a serious illusion. I would just think "oh, battery powered bulb." I mean, Uncle Fester used one on the Addam's family, and I think the Three Stooges did as well. The only way I could see using it is in conjunction with something else. The bulb light up when passed to a volunteer who is holding a secret item, fo example. And then only if I could have the volunteer take it home with him to prove it was real. -Darryl |
|||||||||
Tony Iacoviello Eternal Order 13151 Posts
|
When I was out shopping for the holidays I saw the lights that look just like normal light bulbs with a lull string. You can hang them anywhere you want a light, they are battery powered. With things like this in the general consumer market, this type of effect is essentially a non effect.
|
|||||||||
|
rowdymagi5 Inner circle Virginia 3623 Posts
|
I can attest to the EXCELLENT customer service that you recieve when purchasing any Cesaral product. I had a problem with one of his effects that I bought (turned out that I was the problem, not the product.) Anyway, I e-mailed him and not only recieved a very prompt reply, but was sent a "downloaded" movie he made specifically for me to show me how to adjust the device.
I have never had this kind of personal attention from anyone else in the Magic Industry! |
|||||||||
obijuan Loyal user New Lenox 242 Posts
|
I use to use a d'light to light a bulb. It then began to levitate and in the end I wrapped in plastic as a convincer, it then shattered! Just a thought. I was influenced by seeing dr. zodiac perform this in Chicago, he said it was influenced by Christopher Carter and his electric man antics. I don't think the good doctor has a sight anymore but I did manage to find http://www.mindcramp.com for some video. These two guys take that effect and create a reason and a purpose for the effect.
|
|||||||||
Mr. Ree Elite user Sedona AZ 414 Posts
|
Quote:
On 2007-12-27 14:23, Tony Iacoviello wrote: This is the most interesting one: Scroll down and play the instructional video. http://www.dumpvideo.net/2007/12/14/myst......lb-hack/ Tony kinda like these? For $10.00 - $20.00. http://www.alltvstuff.com/tw090702.html http://syracuse.craigslist.org/hsh/503486632.html http://www.1seenontvstore.com/stick-up-bulbs.html http://www.asontvinfomercials.com/tvprod......ulb.html No comments, just quick 3 minute Google search.
An idea can turn to dust or magic, depending on the talent that rubs against it.
---- William Bernbach (1911 - 1982) ---- (After 25 years of PCs, everything switched to Macs, June 2008) |
|||||||||
|
Tony Iacoviello Eternal Order 13151 Posts
|
Yes. You can also find versions with a wireless on/off switch. I saw them at Walgreens and picked up a few yesterday. All under $10.
Tony |
|||||||||
|
CesaralM Loyal user 276 Posts
|
Quote:
On 2007-12-27 14:49, rowdymagi5 wrote: Thanks for this comment!. I really think that having the best support available is one of the best ways to put the brand Cesaral Magic so high! Thanks again Cesar Alonso (Cesaral Magic) |
|||||||||
|
CesaralM Loyal user 276 Posts
|
Quote:
On 2007-12-28 03:59, Mr. Ree wrote: Yes, great links! But in none of those bulbs versions the bulb can rest all the time on the spectators hands...those are just nice toys to play with. Cesar Alonso (Cesaral Magic) |
|||||||||
|
Mr. Ree Elite user Sedona AZ 414 Posts
|
Quote:
On 2007-12-24 02:16, Mr. Ree wrote: Quote:
On 2007-12-27 13:38, CesaralM wrote: Hello CesaraM, I understand why you cover your bulb in bubble wrap. My personal opinion it that this looks awkward and you would not need to do this if the filament of the bulb acted like, or at least looked like a real incandescent bulb. Especially in the spectators hands. If you are worried about someone thinking you have batteries in the bulb and are just lighting it by shorting out the base this type of effect may have been overexposed. Then adding the bubble wrap will now make the “trick” magical I don’t agree. In its present form the Cesaral Magic Bulb” causes concern for me and I would not use it especially as a “mental effect”. ============================================================================== Quote:
On 2007-12-24 02:16, Mr. Ree wrote: Quote:
On 2007-12-27 13:38, CesaralM wrote: Hello Mr. Alonso I still believe this item is overpriced, my opinion. This comment is based on over 25 years of developing, producing, and having marketed new electronic concepts of my ideas as well as for others. (Low-cost electronics is my specialty as well as setting up production for mass-production items manufactured in Asia.) I am also familiar, in general, with cost of marketing, advertising, distribution cost, and profit margins. I also understand that everything takes longer than expected. Turning ideas into product, instructions, video and audio recording and editing, duplicating DVDs setting up production, marketing, selling the product and dealing with returns I want to be fair to you the only thing I don’t know is what your market size is and if you are making 1,000 items compared to 100,000 your production cost will vary greatly. (No, I don’t want you to tell me your market size.) But even if you market is only 1,000 items I personally believe your product is overpriced, don’t shoot, just my opinion. ============================================================================================================================== Quote:
On 2007-12-28 03:59, Mr. Ree wrote: Quote:
On 2007-12-28 09:46, CesaralM wrote: Hi Mr. Alonso, Sorry for any misunderstanding I am not directly comparing these bulbs to your product. It was in reference to one of the opening statements. Quote:
On 2007-11-16 21:30, Terry Holley wrote: As these types of bulbs and even a “primitive” version of the trick, first link video, is in front of lay people all the time. (It makes this effect weaker in my opinion.) Also the first link video would be a good starting place to make one and try some of your own experiments with the “primitive” version first. Ultimately if magicians and/or mentalist see your product as a good one at a fair price you will do well with this item. Best wishes in future endeavors. Mr. Ree /Dave
An idea can turn to dust or magic, depending on the talent that rubs against it.
---- William Bernbach (1911 - 1982) ---- (After 25 years of PCs, everything switched to Macs, June 2008) |
|||||||||
|
Tony Iacoviello Eternal Order 13151 Posts
|
Cesaral
You have missed the point. Years ago, if a magician could place a stuffed animal (toy) on stage, and it appeared to come to life, talk and move around on its own (without apparent puppeteering) the magician could name his own price. Today, every child under the age of 8 owns toys that do this. Even if a magician came up with a method to do this that did not use the toy's method, the effect would be worthless as the effect is an everyday occurrence. Yes, the magician COULD spend time disassembling the toy to PROVE to the audience that there is no method for the movement, but that defeats the purpose of good magic. Any effect that must be explained to justify it is not an effective piece for public performance. Does this example apply to your effect? Well that is up to members reading it here to decide. All I can say is that liked the toys in my example above, there are commercial products available that look like light bulbs and illuminate either by direct action of an individual or by the flipping of a remote wireless switch. Will the public see this as an effect or as product demonstration? That, I cannot tell you, my magic crystal snowball does not tune into the QVC. Tony Iacoviello |
|||||||||
|
CesaralM Loyal user 276 Posts
|
Thanks for your comments; they have helped me a lot.
Regards Cesar Alonso (Cesaral Magic) |
|||||||||
|
CesaralM Loyal user 276 Posts
|
Quote:
On 2007-12-28 18:38, Tony Iacoviello wrote: A simple everyday spoon can be a magic item for all ages, if used properly... A simple everyday bulb can be a magic item for all ages, also if used properly...use you imagination and your magic skills… This is a possible presentation for kids: you ask one kid to help you….you "convert" him into a lamp...you produce from his ears a power cable…you magically produce other lamp elements…you ask him to hold the bulb in his hands like a lamp “would do”...you step back...the lamp will create a funny illusion when lights. Will those under 8 think about the electronics that must be within the bulb, or will they think about the nice and magic time they are having with you? I have seen many different reactions with this bulb, all of them full of illusion...otherwise, I would not have put this bulb in the market. Cesar Alonso (Cesaral Magic) |
|||||||||
bobser Inner circle 4179 Posts
|
No, it's old fashioned and embarrassing to the serious performer. I'm with Tony. Kids of 6 & 7 understand this technology.
It's the kind of effect that gets a magician with 3 weeks experience excited... for about 3 minutes.
Bob Burns is the creator of The Swan.
|
|||||||||
|
Brucelee New user Master of Nun-Chuckin' 70 Posts
|
Quote:
On 2007-11-16 22:08, Tony Iacoviello wrote: I second that. Brucelee |
|||||||||
Amyxdove Regular user Andy Amyx 143 Posts
|
I feel with today’s technology. Magicians who make these items that require electronic wizardry are about 25 years behind. Most of what is put out on the magic market (Electronic wise)is poorly executed.
|
|||||||||
carmean New user 79 Posts
|
If you have the right presentation it could work. But the price is the deal breaker for me.
|
|||||||||
|
CesaralM Loyal user 276 Posts
|
Don´t miss the new version available with the standard B22 bulb base (used in the UK, Australia, South Africa and other countries). You can see it at:
http://www.cesaral.com/Cesaral%20Magic%20Bulb%20B22.htm You will see some advantages in this new model. The most important ones are: 1) Available in cold white or warm white 2) The light comes from the center of the bulb 3) Part of the bulb is really transparent and thus is less suspicious 4) Any lamp with cord switch can be used to demonstrate the bulb and then do the effect. ...don´t miss the initial promotional price... Best regards! Cesar Alonso (Cesaral Magic) |
|||||||||
|
Tony Iacoviello Eternal Order 13151 Posts
|
Buy an ad like everyone else. |
|||||||||
|
mesmer Inner circle 1186 Posts
|
No......I wont use this...I rather had my eyes poke with magic wand cover with Antrax!
there is no logical explanation for bringging lightbulb to your stage....it is not un common.....unless you perform this in a lightbulb store or unless you are Criss Angel......un less there is lightbulb used as a lightning for your stage just my 2 cents |
|||||||||
| The Magic Cafe Forum Index » » Penny for your thoughts » » Would you use this effect? (0 Likes) | ||||||||||
| Go to page [Previous] 1~2~3~4 [Next] | ||||||||||
Posted: Dec 27, 2007 06:38 pm 
)
| [ Top of Page ] |
|
All content & postings Copyright © 2001-2024 Steve Brooks. All Rights Reserved. This page was created in 0.08 seconds requiring 5 database queries. |
|
The views and comments expressed on The Magic Café are not necessarily those of The Magic Café, Steve Brooks, or Steve Brooks Magic. > Privacy Statement < 
|