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gvmagic1 New user 64 Posts |
I've decided to learn a wand spin. Would appreciate any help in directing me to a DVD that teaches a good spin.
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magicorik Loyal user Italia 203 Posts |
Michael Ammar's Cups and Balls Vol.2 but I strongly advise you to study both volumes.
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matt kemp Veteran user 312 Posts |
I second Ammar's Cups and Balls DVD. He teaches the Mora/Vernon Wand Spin as well as the Drummer's Spin. The Vernon spin is a vanish, the Drummer's spin is somewhat of a wand flourish. I don't really know how to categorize it. I use it in my cups and balls routine because I think it looks cool.
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Mr. Muggle Special user 999 Posts |
I concur with the above posts but would recommend you watch and study old Vernon footage of his wand spin...there multiple differences between the variations and how each magician does the spin.
"Now you're looking for the secret... but you won't find it because you're not really looking. You don't really want to know the secret... You want to be fooled." - The Prestige (2006)
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L Trunk Loyal user Australia 207 Posts |
For me, having a fairly heavy wand helped a lot when learning.
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Mr. Muggle Special user 999 Posts |
A heavy wand does help in the learning process but is not necessary. Ammar used to supply the directions for the spin with his Mercury wand - not sure if he still provides instructions with the purchase or not.
"Now you're looking for the secret... but you won't find it because you're not really looking. You don't really want to know the secret... You want to be fooled." - The Prestige (2006)
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truesoldier Inner circle 1191 Posts |
I know that you are after a DVD, however if you ever consider a written description with really nice drawings, then get Michael Ammars book The Magic of Michael Ammar. In addition to this you will also get lots & lots of very useful information.
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Pete Biro 1933 - 2018 18558 Posts |
Also, if you belong to a club or have a magic shop nearby, find someone that does it and can mentor you.
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AndyComic Loyal user 211 Posts |
I do this sometimes in my routine but be warned it's pretty hard. This point was driven home to me when I saw the flicking fingers crew perform this (well one of them) and he totally messed it up and was scrambling around on stage trying to find the ball he dropped. It's a great one for magicians but for lay people it's never really appreciated.
For learning it, practice making your hand fall at the same speed as the ball is falling when its released from the other hand. |
Andre Hagen Inner circle 1432 Posts |
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On 2007-11-26 14:43, AndyComic wrote: Hard to do is a good thing...keeps those afraid of practice from doing it. I also beg to differ that lay people do not appreciate it. I find that they do. Just my opinion, Andy
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Pete Biro 1933 - 2018 18558 Posts |
I think spins and fourishes can add to your routine even if you don't do the vanish.
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disneywld Special user Denver, CO 614 Posts |
I learned from a drummer simply by asking. He was playing for Michael Jackson at the time.
The Magic of Christopher Manos
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alakazam! New user 59 Posts |
Ammar's book (Complete Cups and Balls) is reasonably useful, but only if you have a video of the spin being performed so that you can really see how everything fits together. It seems to me to be one of those "knack" things so the best way to learn this may be to see if demonstrated in person and just practice and practice....
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darkhawk New user 39 Posts |
I do not do it my self, for no other reason other than I don't have a wand.
anyhow was here http://www.roykueppers.com/wands.html and he as wands that spin well, I love his stuff so thought I would pass the word bout this stainless tube wand |
Dave V Inner circle Las Vegas, NV 4824 Posts |
I think Gazzo explains his spin on his Penguin Street Cups and Balls DVD. His is a rather standard drummer spin, but done at the fingertips. He adapted it so he can do the spin while holding out a ball in the same hand.
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Bill Palmer Eternal Order Only Jonathan Townsend has more than 24312 Posts |
Bear in mind when watching the videos of Vernon doing the spin that his arms had been broken and reset at a very odd angle. This gave him a different set of hand positions when he did the spin.
The explanation in the Ganson book is useless, except for the photos.
"The Swatter"
Founder of CODBAMMC My Chickasaw name is "Throws Money at Cups." www.cupsandballsmuseum.com |
jakeg Inner circle 1741 Posts |
I saw the mercury wand listed on Ammar's web site. What is it?
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marty.sasaki Inner circle 1117 Posts |
Check out http://www.pentrix.com/ The site has stuff on pen spinning, but a lot of it can be adapted to wands.
Marty Sasaki
Arlington, Massachusetts, USA Standard disclaimer: I'm just a hobbyist who enjoys occasionally mystifying friends and family, so my opinions should be viewed with this in mind. |
Dave V Inner circle Las Vegas, NV 4824 Posts |
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On 2007-12-02 17:34, jakeg wrote: It's a wand. Solid aluminum shaft with shrink tubing style black sleeving. Being metal, it's a good weight for spinning, but tough on cups (and toes)
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Ray_Mago New user Rio Rancho 82 Posts |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7dvzYo4wnks
Why spend a bunch of money on a dvd when everything you'll ever need is on youtube?
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