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John Nesbit Inner circle United States 1421 Posts |
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On 2007-11-23 18:27, Randwill wrote: Why would someone with supernatural abilities need a gimmicked magic trick to perform on national television? Same reason 'God' needed a starship? [/quote] If I may help out some clarification surrounding the concerns continually arising from these questions. From another thread on the Penny For Your Thoughts forum regarding the "Rope Trick". Quote:
On 2007-11-23 18:46, sibbie wrote: |
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magic4545 Inner circle Jimmy Fingers 1159 Posts |
Then, thankfully, mine is completely different. I guess that anyone watching the clip of Paul's performance will be instantly aware of which direction that they will want to go with this effect.
Jim has no reason to be angry. Especially if he sold the rights to Jeff Stewart. Jeff Stewart has never expressed any irritatation with my version. I would say that Jim no longer has a horse in this race, but I don't know enough about his agreements with Jeff and Meir. Jimmy |
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truthteller Inner circle 2584 Posts |
Slim,
I think you are being overly sensitive. Jim performed a trick which has been established for years in the marketplace. Nothing wrong with that at all. Since its release it has been attributed to Stewart and there as never been any person who has called that attribution into question. Performing a marketed trick on television is a perfectly fine choice. But Mick informed us that the trick was original to Jim. This flies in the face of an accepted attribution that has been in place since the late 80's. To call that statement into question was not only the right thing to do, but the responsible one. But my statement remains true: the very trick performed by Jim was marketed by Meir Yedid and was credited to Stewart. (Something John denied. The tricks were identical.) If Jim invented it, then that record needs to be changed. No convictions - just statements of facts. Brad |
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Dr Spektor Eternal Order Carcanis 10781 Posts |
Oh, as an aaide - I found some secret footage of how the performers were handled behind the scenes to get them to alter their acts for TV. Oh, if you are wondering who the decayed devil-priest mummified corpse is, one guess! (He doesn't want anyone to say his age on TV, you see, so he keeps transforming to C**** A**** the Ever-Living! (So long as he keeps earning for the Machine))
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=aDHq2UiJ_AM&feature=related
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Slim King Eternal Order Orlando 18012 Posts |
Jim told me that Stewart had "Manufacturing Rights" and at no time did he (Stewart) ever claim to have invented the effect. Meir verified it later...But it's not my battle...I was just amused with the presentation
Hope Jim sells a lot of DVD's
THE MAN THE SKEPTICS REFUSE TO TEST FOR ONE MILLION DOLLARS.. The Worlds Foremost Authority on Houdini's Life after Death.....
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Dr Spektor Eternal Order Carcanis 10781 Posts |
Zip
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DerZauberer Elite user Southern California 468 Posts |
I was running my monthly ad on Craig's List and Look what I came across>:
Mentalist Ehud Segev from NBC will amaze YOUR guests! http://orangecounty.craigslist.org/evs/487357233.html I see how he cleverly omits the fact he was one of the first voted off. I think He should play up being runner-up in The Successor. "Runner-Up on the Hit TV Show with Uri Geller!" or something got that nature... Best of Luck to Ehud! |
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Slim King Eternal Order Orlando 18012 Posts |
They all need a little more than those actors wages
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Rupert Bair Inner circle ? 2179 Posts |
Is the Rope trick the same on Max Holden used in his Anneman act? I've not seen this episode yet...Bit of a long shot.
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magic4545 Inner circle Jimmy Fingers 1159 Posts |
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On 2007-11-24 13:20, Slim King wrote: Were they all little more than actors? |
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Slim King Eternal Order Orlando 18012 Posts |
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On 2007-11-24 17:06, magic4545 wrote: Got Me!
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Decomposed Eternal Order High Desert 12059 Posts |
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Robert Sixx Special user 850 Posts |
Jimmy,
Let me know when you publish yours -- looks great and I would love to get it!!! Robert Sixx |
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magic4545 Inner circle Jimmy Fingers 1159 Posts |
If I were to publish the Rope-u-tation, I would be giving contruction specifics, construction variations and historical advancements, links to hidden youtube video clips, performance variations and other subtleties from acts like Jay Alexander and Maritess. Each of them have been using my version for way over a decade, and they have guarded it with their lives for the whole time. Paul Nathan is pretty possessive about it, as well. If you ask him where he got it, he'll tell you it's not available, with no specifics. And, frankly, at the time that he told people that, it was actually true.
Everyone jumps on the Bob Sheets "Hang 'em High" bandwagon, without even knowing about the extended version that combines that effect with the Stewart/Yedid/Callahan version seen in my old videos and Paul's performance. And when they see it, they just don't know what to make of it. Once someone makes up their mind that Hang 'em High is the only version, there's no way to get through to them. That's just that, and there's no changing it. A funny story about this. Jay was working the Fruitopia tour the year before I did, and using my rope routine and gimmick. When I came to the tour the following year, the director of the performances told me that I 'stole' the idea from Jay. Obviously, he was not aware of how things work in the magic world. How rarely the originator gets the glory for ideas and effects. And, to Jim... I didn't realize that the Stewart/Yedid product was your own invention, or I wouldn't have been so harsh in my critique of your handling. If this is your baby, you deserve more respect than that. From a parallel thinker. I feel that it's brilliant stuff. Sorry about the overly honest and blunt evaluation. At this time, I'm sure that you're feeling confused enough about your part in all of this without me piling on. With respect, Jimmy Fingers |
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Jason Purdy Regular user 140 Posts |
I just found an old clip (1992) of me performing Rope Through Body.
(Jeff Stewart's form Meir Yedid) I like Jimmy's much better! Here is a link: http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseac......22793408 |
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Jim-Callahan V.I.P. 5018 Posts |
I was given 30 seconds to do the effect.
The presentation came in at 27 seconds. It had to have no angle problems for it might be shot from any side at any time. (Also as per the rules of the show it was to be your own creation/work) The reason for using it was to show a different side of myself. Something lighter than I was brought on the show to be. I considered doing my water hesitation pour. Water poured from one drinking glass to another stops and hovers in the air halfway to the second glass. It then continues on it's journey. The effect happens several times as the water pours from one glass to the other. However it is not as fun as the rope trick and does not allow for the playing about the rope penetration does. Also because the water just stops for a few seconds and undulates in the air I thought people would suspect a camera trick because it looks like a live computer graphics effect. I created it after seeing the Abyss. Jim
“I can make Satan’s devils dance like fine gentlemen across the stage of reality”.
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Tony Iacoviello Eternal Order 13151 Posts |
That does sound very cool!
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Dr Spektor Eternal Order Carcanis 10781 Posts |
Jim... can you publish some of your magic creations? I love elemental forces! Make it a limited release... couldja?
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Slim King Eternal Order Orlando 18012 Posts |
All three of Jim's effects seemed original to Jim...Unlike ALL of the other contestants..With storebought stuff
Unless I missed something....?
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Jim-Callahan V.I.P. 5018 Posts |
They were and are my own work.
The contract said it was to be your own creation and or effects. The mental force effect was brand new. Gerry and Jim Karol suggested I use a dead person for the effect with Shandy to stay within my World of the Dead. I asked for the first dead guy that came to mind and Gerry said ELVIS. (This was one hour before show time.) I added some ideas I use to up the hit rate. It had to be between 95% to 97% that night. Jim
“I can make Satan’s devils dance like fine gentlemen across the stage of reality”.
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