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trebort New user 2 Posts |
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On 2007-12-23 22:51, Potty the Pirate wrote: What do you mean by "so many problems" there's only a single non-issue with this trick. The trick works with a diary which contains months & dates. Nobody will ever question the fact that there isn't a month of the year with 36 days. Do you know any months with 36 days? I don't. In fact, if you do arrive at 36, it's a very good convincer that nothing is pre-arranged and the result is random. Much like book tests where you ask to look up page 537 and the book only has 375 pages, the spectator says "there isn't a page 537" and you pick another page number and any suspicion of a force vanishes. This is a mentalism trick and if the spectator arrives at 36, if you don't mention there isn't 36 days in a month, he probably will ! Just tell him to reshuffle and that's it. A NON-ISSUE. I'd love to get 36, as it COMPLETELY removes any possible suspicion of a force. So I have no idea what you mean by "so many problems" the only thing I see that's been mentioned is getting 36 as a date and that actually works in your favor. It's a very good and solid mentalism trick. While I've been a member here since 2006, as you can see I don't post much (more of a reader than a poster). But I felt the need to say what a good trick this is. |
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Devilix Veteran user 372 Posts |
Hi guys,
Thanks for the great support about this one. Feedback have been great. I have something to share for those interested. With this little something, you can have only one card in front of the spectator since the beggining. This is now how I do it. No sleight of hand involve. It add a little magic to the effect. Some may like, some maybe don't. Depend on the style but worth sharing. PM me for detail since I don't want to expose. thanks and Happy Christmas to all |
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Christopher Williams Inner circle Portsmouth, UK 4464 Posts |
To be completely honest, when I set this up for the first time, and in fact now, I still don't care what possibilities are possible, because the presentation doesn't bring it into suspicion. I wrote in the dates, and off I went, I never even considered the possibilities, and still to this day I haven't been questioned on it. Now, I did the original instructions, and Dave and John then took them on, so I take full responsibility for any problems anyone has with this, as they only took on what I wrote, which was taken from my Diary I had set up. If anyone REALLY wants to or is able to figure out all the possibilities for Precision Magic, I am sure they will be greatful, and of course would get credit in revised instructions which I am sure will go out eventually with all the new ideas.
The problem with most effects, is when they are created, they are limited then to the creators thoughts etc, and most creators can't change it or add much, it is only when the effect is released, and more people look at it, that more ideas come out and the effect potentially comes better. I am sure most of the effects out there could have new intructions written due to all the new ideas and thoughts come up with my Magicians who own and perform the effects. This will be no exception, and as I said, I still have my own way of presenting this, as do others |
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Number One Regular user Mike J Kelly 164 Posts |
Christopher
If you had cared to read all my posts then you would have seen all the possibilities likelihood of occurrence and if they had been covered in the manuscript. Mike
Guess which hand the frog is in.
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Christopher Williams Inner circle Portsmouth, UK 4464 Posts |
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On 2007-12-25 17:05, Number One wrote: Have I done something to offend or upset you Mike? No need to post like that, especially on Christmas day. I was merely apologising to anyone who had a problem with the manuscript and it's date set up |
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Dr Spektor Eternal Order Carcanis 10781 Posts |
Its a great effect - and I've fired off my 4 way out to Devilix - so you have no suspicious moves at all.
"They are lean and athirst!!!!"
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Devilix Veteran user 372 Posts |
Dr Spektor have really good ideas. This is what I like about magic, you can always take what you like and do something to improve what you don't. Congratz on this.
Christopher, if I were you, I wouldnt mind about Number one. Some people are just like that.... |
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Potty the Pirate Inner circle 4632 Posts |
Trebort, my point is, that after reading the whole thread, it seems that there are several possible outcomes which were not considered in the original manuscript. I'm only going on what I read here. However, it's also clear that the author doesn't really know if all the possibilities have been considered, or at least that's also what seems to come across. It appears that various people have used trial and error to try to find out if there are any scenarios that maybe rare, but possible.
Of course, I may be wrong, but the point of my post was to mention that as someone who doesn't own this manuscript, this thread makes me think it's something that's still being worked on. No one seems to be really sure if one time someone will come up with another number that doesn't work.... I love good mathematical magic, but abhor poor effects (like the Knight's Tour). And I read this thread hoping to discover that Diary of Destiny may fall into the "good" category. But no one has yet convinced me that this is a real worker, it sounds like an effect that works most of the time, but no one's actually bothered to do a mathematical analysis of it. Which means maybe it's something that should be offered free here, rather than expecting folks to pay for it? If I'm wrong, please feel free to correct me... Doug. |
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trebort New user 2 Posts |
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If I'm wrong, please feel free to correct me... Some of the posts in this thread mention dates are that mathematically impossible to get to (like 18th). This may have contributed to the notion that there are loads of outcomes that weren't adressed, but that's just an inacurate perception. There is only a finite number of possibilities. They have all been mentioned in this thread and solutions have been written for them. Dr Spektor has done an excellent job at adressing these and explaning why they are impossible. You can rest assured that there aren't unknown outcomes and that you will -never- come up with a result that hasn't already been discussed here. Without revealing the mechanics behind the trick, let me put it this way: if you had to add 2 EVEN numbers, the result could never be ODD. By the way, just so you know, I have zero relations with the company publishing this trick. |
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Floyd Collins Inner circle Ohio 1633 Posts |
I myself love the trick I had to order the manuscript not the download. I forgot I orderd it and wham in the mail came this effect. I love it. I would also like if anyone would be willing to share there ideas of making this a one card wounder. Please PM me. Like I said Hats off for this one, it will play big.
No one said it would be easy, or did they?
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Dmann Inner circle Crossville, Tennessee 1683 Posts |
This is a teriffic effect and I hope to see many more reviews. If you have questions or comments please don't hesitate to contact me for more information.
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