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Just found this video on youtube, the guy is 23 years old, but he's already quite good at shuffling cards...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WvxoMgT5ZAg

His second deal is really amazing, and his dices moves are...well, just have look Smile
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I liked the false deals. Nice work, is that you h2o?
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I liked the second deal. I don't like people doing moves on camera with bees though Smile
Bottom with half a deck.. I don't see the point. Seldom you have the opportunity to deal with half a deck..

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The moves looked great, but it is hard to tell because of the lighting and Bee cards.

My main critisism is the fact thay he worked TOO FAST. If he slowed down a bit it would be better and look more natural.

If I saw someone handle cards that smooth and FAST in a game, I would be suspecious Smile ... even though I did not see anything.
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Vandy Grift wrote:
I liked the false deals. Nice work, is that you h2o?


LOL, unfortunately no....


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Seldom you have the opportunity to deal with half a deck..


I would say it's safer to wait that the deck is thiner before attempting a bottom, depending on the kind of game you play and the correct moment or opportunity to get a located card. By the way, it's not so uncommon in private or friendly games for the dealer not to complete the cut, and to just start dealing by picking the bottom stack.
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To me this guy is good. What's scary about his moves is that I have footage of these exact moves done by Steve and Rod the Hop. It seems as though he has gotten my footage from somewhere and copied the moves. To me his moves are not fast even if many of ya'll may think so; he has a natural flow that I would like all of you shuffle workers to get. For the record Steve's shuffling speed doing these exact moves are the same.

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To be honest I have never seen anyone not complete the cut except in protection videos.

As in all things, you do what you can do according to the games you play.
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On 2007-12-07 10:20, Unknown419 wrote:
For the record Steve's shuffling speed doing these exact moves are the same.



Yes, that's what I thought as well. His running cuts look a lot like Fortes. Very fast, but I like fast. He may be hyper like me, I tend to do things fast as well.
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I've heard of that guy before. My understanding was that he is like Forte's protege.
Kim, in most of the videos I've seen Steve Forte deal bottoms he only uses half of the deck Smile He is definitely good.
What's good about his muck is that for once, it's not a magician demo of a move.
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Matu, that was my point. I can't see the point as I have never seen a game where you just pick the reminder up and deal, just like splice said.

Kim
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Good hands, think I recognize them. The speed is good for a casino dealer, too fast for a home game. If it's who I think, the reason he deals the bottoms with a short deck is because he's not playing with a full deck.
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Can't believe I'm the only one to see sometimes people just pick up the bottom stack and deal. I've even seen it done by 2 guys a couple of months ago in a poker tournament I played in. It was an illegal joint and there were no official dealers so players had to shuffle, cut and deal by themselves.
Next time in your private game, if it's not a too formal one, just do it yourself and you'll see that nobody will care. And if there are complains, at least you know that those players have a sense for protection against cheating.
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If there is a single truth about Magic, it is that nothing on earth so efficiently evades it.

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H2o, if they complain, it would be because they know what I do in my spare time.

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H2o, it's not because you can do it in your games that others should just try it out.

If no one does that in the games I play, then doing it myself will possibly attract attention. It doesn't matter if no one says a thing, if suddenly one or two people start watching me because I do things differently than everyone else, that's no good.

Same thing with everything else. If people are using overhand shuffles, are you going to go in there and use riffles and strips? I don't think that's such a good idea. No matter that no one would grab you and drag you outside for doing it, you want to blend in as much as possible, yes?

Which is why I said "you do what you can do according to the games you play". So when I practice bottom dealing, I deal from a full deck. The games I play do not provide me with an easy opportunity to deal from a half deck, so I don't bother practicing that. I am sure there is a reason for the mechanic in this video to do it, after all no move exists in a void. But there is no reason for someone to start not completing cuts and deal from half a deck just because someone in a video or a message board does it. There must be motivation behind what you're doing, just like in magic.
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That's Mr. Z.

I have ALWAYS admired his second deal. His stud seconds are amongst the best that I have ever seen.

But, shhh, don't tell him that I said so. Wouldn't want him to get a big head!

Good man, Z.

CC
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I didn't say that I do it myself. In any case it would be useless for me as I don't bottom deal. Just that it's not something completely unusual and that you may happen to see it during a game. I should have pointed that most of the time when people just pick the bottom deck and deal, it's because a plastic deck is in use and they just seem not being confident and clever dealing from a thick plastic deck.

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That's Mr. Z.


I didn't know Mr Z was a youngster lol
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H2o, my point is that "completely unusual" is relative to the games you play. The games I play, yes, definitely, not completing the cut and dealing from half a deck would be completely unusual, whether with plastic cards or not.

Again, "you do what you can do according to the games you play", and that's the last time I'll say it.

CC, did you notice that others had ideas about who was in the video, but didn't name names? Just a thought.
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On 2007-12-07 13:04, card cheat wrote:

His stud seconds are amongst the best that I have ever seen.



I agree, they are very good.
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I've never seen this guy before but by putting 2 and 2 together I would say that it is Mr. Z. (even if I'm wrong) because I heard that he was Steve's protege and this footage to me proves it. I have never seen these dice moves done by any one except Steve and it is in the dice moves that this guy do that my dice teacher Prett said that "this is what your man was trying to do" and then demonstrated his version of the correct way to do it. So on this note alone, I would have to definitely agree with CC of who he is.

Students ya'll are now looking at the real work that you have to practice.


Respectfully,

Doc
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