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Sort of puts things in perspective. Those studs where very smooth. His muck looked natural as well.
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That's the best close-up pad I've ever seen, it's huge.
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Man everything looks so good and the action on the deals is insane.
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Eh... he's no Jiggaboo Jones....
One time, when I was young, I botched a sleight so bad, Vernon, Marlo & Miller rolled over in their graves. But I didn't see Elmsley, probably because he was behind the others.
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On 2007-12-07 11:26, Vandy Grift wrote:
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On 2007-12-07 10:20, Unknown419 wrote:
For the record Steve's shuffling speed doing these exact moves are the same.



Yes, that's what I thought as well. His running cuts look a lot like Fortes. Very fast, but I like fast. He may be hyper like me, I tend to do things fast as well.


I don't know how the card work will hold up in different parts of the country. Can't say. It won't go here. Mob rules mentality. I think they will turn on anybody that doesn't have a slow and easy pace where they can burn you hands good.

The dice work was a little rough but it won't take much to polish up from there. The smack is good for expose. won't fly in any place I know. All in all not bad though. I think he really shined on the fourth or fifth switch, I forget now without watching it again.

Depends on where you want to go with it. I saw some work like that at a trade show, and the guy was a no name. He was taking $900 a day and that ain't too shabby for a gig like that. Standing on concrete all day is fine when your young. He was pitching the company here and there too. He was very engaging with the specs and kept a small crowd when some of the other booths were empty.
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On 2007-12-07 18:04, raw dawg wrote:
Eh... he's no Jiggaboo Jones....


Maybe not yet, but he's on his way. I like the kid he got talent, but he's a couple of tacos short of a combination plate.
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On 2007-12-07 18:43, KingStardog wrote:
I don't know how the card work will hold up in different parts of the country. I think they will turn on anybody that doesn't have a slow and easy pace where they can burn you hands good.


Exactly.

His talent is quite obvious, but I agree with what you say here to the letter.

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Since I don't play in home games, it looks a natural enough pace to me.
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Exactly. This is the pace one needs to deal in a Casino. More hands, more rake.

Mmm... tacos.
One time, when I was young, I botched a sleight so bad, Vernon, Marlo & Miller rolled over in their graves. But I didn't see Elmsley, probably because he was behind the others.
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Anyway: The faster the better for a dealer working for tips. More pots = more tips! Many private games here have dealers who deal for tips. Players generally like fast efficient dealers to keep the action rolling.
If there is a single truth about Magic, it is that nothing on earth so efficiently evades it.

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Great stuff...Thirsty for more!
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Sniff around. It's out there.

At least, it used to be.

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Yes sir, that indeed is Mr. Z.

great stuff as always.
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Yall say its to fast to fly in some games. What makes you think he can't do it slow and smooth as well?
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On 2007-12-08 00:03, reasons14 wrote:
Yall say its to fast to fly in some games. What makes you think he can't do it slow and smooth as well?


Nobody said that he couldn't dumb it down.

All that was said, if I remember properly, was that the handling (namely, the shuffling) was a little too flashy for some games. Take into consideration that if the guy handling the cards the best always wins on his own deal, or that a certain person (takeoff man) hits heavyweight hands when he shuffles or deals that this would be valid cause of suspicion in the eyes of those who lacked the same manual dexterity when shuffling or dealing.

I will say that I have played against people who did make a comment about how "familiar" I seemed to be with the cards. That I must play often. I can also tell you that, as soon as a comment like that was made, I played on my belly (or at least toned it down a bunch) until I sensed that it was safe to win more often, or to make bigger hands.

When a mechanic gets into the habit of handling the cards a certain way, it can be VERY challenging to modify those habits, or to add a contrary skillset altogether. I'm sure that some of the more seasoned among us can identify with this.

But, it is important to be mindful of how your work would appear in the eyes of any mark. You can probably be too fast or flashy for some, but can you be ever appear to be too slow, clumsy, uncoordinated, etc...?

It is easy for a cardman to become wrapped up in speed and finesse, especially after YEARS of practice and handling. You have to ask yourself, however, what will the dupes tolerate? Does handling the cards like this imply things in the minds of the victims that I simply don't want implicated?

It all boils down to: don't be noticed. Shuffling like that in certain games is antithetical to this cardinal rule.

Could he dumb it down? You betcha. Look at what he has accomplished. If he needed to, he could adapt. He's "got the hands" for it.

His card work is superb (amongst the very best for what it is), and it's not only that. This is a guy that runs with people that KNOW.

He talks funny, though.

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I just thought it didn't really need to be brought up. I thought the post was almost in the context of "yeah that's good but it's not always going to fly"

I have had the situation you talk of happen to me on occasion as well. You bring up some good points; Most of them being things people who have moved in a game have already thought of
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On 2007-12-07 09:07, h2o wrote:
Just found this video on youtube, the guy is 23 years old, but he's already quite good at shuffling cards...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WvxoMgT5ZAg

His second deal is really amazing, and his dices moves are...well, just have look Smile


deja vu

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45lnCEayt0w


Happy Holidays To All

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Hehe definitely deju vu Smile Great work, thanks for the video doc.

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On 2007-12-08 04:32, Unknown419 wrote:
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On 2007-12-07 09:07, h2o wrote:
Just found this video on youtube, the guy is 23 years old, but he's already quite good at shuffling cards...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WvxoMgT5ZAg

His second deal is really amazing, and his dices moves are...well, just have look Smile


deja vu

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45lnCEayt0w


Happy Holidays To All

Doc


I learned most of those moves from Stevie when I was 15 or so. Still not right to be putting that stuff up without their permission though, Doc. But we've danced to this tune before--at the end of the day, you're going to do what you want.

Anyways, while I never was going to advertise that clip here, I'm glad people enjoyed it.
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You're pretty good, keep up the good work and even though I saw it before, I enjoyed it too.

Doc

P.S. Dice that are still on the table must remain still even when switched; yours bounced.
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