|
|
|
|||
| Go to page 1~2~3~4~5 [Next] | ||||||||||
Mark Rough Inner circle Ivy, Virginia 2110 Posts 
|
Okay. . . I have too much to get focused.
I've got: A bunch of notes from Bro. Kotah on Jack the Ripper From Hell v3 Higley's Ripper Set Ghost in the Machine (in mid-construction, along with a flea circus, my own version of the growing mango, and some other non-magic stuff, and. . . .) Several Ripper effects from Docc, Anabelle, Doc Shiels, etc. a shelf full of Jack books (fiction and non) And for the life of me I feel totally blocked!!! I know I should start with one thing and build from there but I can't seem to do it. Someone PLEASE just tell me what to do!!!!!! I THINK I was going for a Ripper seance but it's gotten lost somewhere in my brain. Raven
What would Wavy do?
|
|||||||||
docsteve Inner circle 1831 Posts
|
Hey Raven - know the feeling!
I've been playing with the idea that the victims are the 'stars' - everyone 'celebrates' Jack, but they are left behind - indeed even 'blamed' for being prostitutes. I explain that each of the 5 want to influence us - I begin with Mary Kelly, the angriest, and do Doug's Ripper set, with the letter beginning "If the Spirit of Mary Kelly is influencing us then you...". That way you can then mesh 5 effects as proof each of the 5 victims are 'present'. And why are they here, trying to influence us? What are they trying to tell us? Jack was a cop? 'Jack' was a team of coppers? Sure they were ladies of the night, but just trying to scrape a living together, and instead killed by violent men within the law... It's kind of like an early, dark 'Girl Power' - but not as dark as the "Spice Girls" reforming...
[
|
|||||||||
|
Mark Rough Inner circle Ivy, Virginia 2110 Posts
|
Quote:
On 2007-12-17 15:53, docsteve wrote: [shudder]
What would Wavy do?
|
|||||||||
Dr Spektor Eternal Order Carcanis 10781 Posts
|
Hey Mark...
You must also get the Book of Ascension - Ripper Version (LC) Homicide Series UK (Outlaw) Dear Boss / From Hell letter with bloody handprint Docc Hilford's Band of the Hand.... Then you will have more of the Jigsaw pieces in place.... Yuk yuk When in doubt, go with the immortal sorcerer who sacrifices humans for the dark boons of the Elder gods for a premise... IMHO
"They are lean and athirst!!!!"
|
|||||||||
SpellbinderEntertainment Inner circle West Coast 3519 Posts
|
Mr. Raven, nevermore…
Just because our minds keep working (heck, even when we sleep) does not mean we have to keep up with them and over think or work. Sometimes I just let ideas wait, and wait, and wait, until they pop out of my head and onto the stage in their own good time. If I beat myself up, nothing of worth comes out creatively. If I let things just “be” miraculous stuff ends up being born. The pros of the old days had mastered maybe a dozen, carefully chosen and prepared pieces, and built reputations. Today we want to climb the heights and conquer magic, maybe we try to do too much too quickly? As the Beatles wisely sang: “Let it be, let it be” Enjoy whatever holidays you honor up through New Years. Then, get to work or we’ll set the daemons on you! Magically, Walt |
|||||||||
|
Mark Rough Inner circle Ivy, Virginia 2110 Posts
|
Hey Bruce, don't move, let me go get a big heavy stick. . . be right back!
Thanks Walt. I know you're right. I just don't want you to be. Raven
What would Wavy do?
|
|||||||||
shots Loyal user Kissimmee, FL 256 Posts
|
I was thinking something along the same lines Mark. I'm waiting on From Hell 3 to arrive, and have Higley's Eye of the Ripper. I have an old, strange looking box to house them all in, and I have the "artifacts" wrapped in a genuine London Sun newspaper from 1888 (purchased on ebay, 4 for $20). I'm in the same boat, trying to find a few more effects, and a way to weave the story together.
Thanks for the ideas Dr Spektor, I will have to have a look at those effects and ideas.
Magic in the Shadows
|
|||||||||
jekyllandhyde Loyal user 201 Posts
|
Mark,
Seems like the only Jack missing from your collection is Mr. Daniels. Maybe he can stir up some creative juices. |
|||||||||
|
Dr Spektor Eternal Order Carcanis 10781 Posts
|
Yes, I'm on a classic Trek kick lately - not sure why... but check these out for some inspiration...
http://www.wired.com/entertainment/holly......deView=5 http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Redjac http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBOYdZXvi5k&feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eW4p9sLbW-M Ancient Cthulhu-like Evil... a murder mystery... a seance... a battle for survival... banishing the evil entity.... the stuff of an entire Jack act. Mentalism, bizarre magick, theatre galore. Oh, and pretty women dancing around... Of course, this episode was written by Robert Bloch... and Cthulhoid Jack appears 
"They are lean and athirst!!!!"
|
|||||||||
|
AltonThrash Special user Meridian, MS 589 Posts
|
Quote:
On 2007-12-17 15:53, docsteve wrote: I like your thinking Steve. The victims instead of Jack! What if they tried to tell you who or what Jack was through the use of a little brass ring that came with Incorruptable? Alton |
|||||||||
|
Dr Spektor Eternal Order Carcanis 10781 Posts
|
Yeah - the revealed word in a bible could be "devil" or "Satan" or "evil" or "azazel".... (if you are going for the ancient evil angle)...hmmm.. you could also make Jack "Judas".... if you saw that updated Dracula 2000 - the premise is that Dracula was actually Judas... cursed to wander forever cursed.
"They are lean and athirst!!!!"
|
|||||||||
|
AltonThrash Special user Meridian, MS 589 Posts
|
Quote:
On 2007-12-17 18:53, shots wrote: Scott, Do your papers have any references to ole Jack by chance? The word(s) could also come from the newspapers instead of books. There are some over on the 'bay now. 4 for $20. Just another way to use the newspapers. Matter of fact, they have a ton of newspapers at one source. Ripper, Titanic, Hindenburg, Goldrush, Chicago Fire......tons of stories could flow with a nice rare newspaper. Good idea Scott. Alton |
|||||||||
|
Tone Elite user 423 Posts
|
Mark (and everyone) - If you haven't already, you must read "From Hell" (graphic novel) by Alan Moore and Eddie Campbell for further inspiration. Wonderul work of art, even references aspects of "Sanctum".
|
|||||||||
|
Mark Rough Inner circle Ivy, Virginia 2110 Posts
|
I'm a huge Alan Moore fan. Loved, "From Hell"! I even liked the movie. . . I may be alone in that, however.
What would Wavy do?
|
|||||||||
|
Dr Spektor Eternal Order Carcanis 10781 Posts
|
From Hell (Alan Moore) is great - although I think he lifted a lot from that great film "Murder by Decree"
Someone erased my posts on the Star Trek ideas of the Redjac concept (weird moderators) ... weird... it was meant for real! THE WOLF IN THE FOLD episode shows how you can do the immortal entity shtick - tie in dancing girls, a murder mystery, a seance, and a banishing of the ancient evil. HMmm... I'd post clips of From Hell, Murder by Decree and WOLF IN THE FOLD except maybe it might get erased!!!! Oh yeah, check out the NIGHT STRANGLER Kolchak film - not the Ripper - but as I posted elsewhere - it was going to be but Matheson switched it for his friend Bloch's unease.... an immortal alchemist ripping into women every couple of decades to keep the ol' Elixir of Life brewing...
"They are lean and athirst!!!!"
|
|||||||||
|
Dr Spektor Eternal Order Carcanis 10781 Posts
|
To the moderators... please do not erase this or at least PM me why you do...
But here are clips of some really nice Jack the Ripper films and TV concepts - in keeping in the spirit of Mark's query... Murder by Decree (I loved this film as a kid!) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJIRu2pDE3I Time after Time (A time travelling Jack "90 years ago I was a freak - today I am an amateur") http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VnT-9-EWDxQ Kolchak: the Night Stalker premise... first episode was on The Ripper (but not as good as Night Strangler... can't find any good clips  )...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ry5WI-B_Zvk Wolf in the Fold (I loved this one too): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBOYdZXvi5k A Documentary: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjIUQqrkJdU A Song (Nick Cave): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AxvJmXUiuFM&feature=related Something strange: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdmxaLSISVw&feature=related Jackie the Ripper: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHiAn5HLRvo&feature=related Something else (a lot lifted from FROM HELL film): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rP9diBLKo8Y&feature=related And the Michael Caine version... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eiBzyC2O7S8&feature=related Mary Kelly's Ghost... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_CCRghKCSoo And then there is the Jack the Ripper / Hyde thing... with Julia Roberts (ugh).. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxT_R5OxJIk ------------------ Watch these and let your imagination soar!
"They are lean and athirst!!!!"
|
|||||||||
|
Mark Rough Inner circle Ivy, Virginia 2110 Posts
|
Lots of good stuff there, Dr.
What would Wavy do?
|
|||||||||
|
docsteve Inner circle 1831 Posts
|
Quote:
On 2007-12-18 20:33, Tone wrote: Agreed Tone; in fact Moore's footnotes and references at the end are simply priceless, and the plot is a good twist on the standard 'psycho-killer' line. If you haven't read the graphic novel, go see the movie - it's actually not bad. Then read the book, and despair at how good the movies COULD HAVE been if only they'd taken on it's mood and complexity.
[
|
|||||||||
|
Dr Spektor Eternal Order Carcanis 10781 Posts
|
The actual graphic novel is a gazillion times better than the movie - as there is actual bizarre magick afoot as Jack is performing an actual mystic ritual to usher in the 20th century - to his horror too in the end... as he realizes the 20th century is pretty horrific...
"They are lean and athirst!!!!"
|
|||||||||
Eddie Garland Inner circle Hells Kitchen, New York City 4207 Posts
|
I need to drag this out.
I was considering Sir Arthur Conan Doyle the other day and the evidence of the burnt set of womens clothing at Mary Kelly's flat. Doyle suspected a lace apron rather than leather. A Jill perhaps not Jack. A midwife with anatomy knowledge. So when sorting through the various faces of the ladies contained in "From Hell V3", I like to remember that one of these ladies MIGHT be the Ripper herself. Can you find her? Or at least narrow the suspects down? |
|||||||||
| The Magic Cafe Forum Index » » The spooky, the mysterious...the bizarre! » » Jack Overload (0 Likes) | ||||||||||
| Go to page 1~2~3~4~5 [Next] | ||||||||||
Posted: Dec 17, 2007 08:41 pm 
| [ Top of Page ] |
|
All content & postings Copyright © 2001-2024 Steve Brooks. All Rights Reserved. This page was created in 0.04 seconds requiring 5 database queries. |
|
The views and comments expressed on The Magic Café are not necessarily those of The Magic Café, Steve Brooks, or Steve Brooks Magic. > Privacy Statement < 
|