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magician8
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Is sleight of hand really the way to get the money or should we all stop wasting so much time and starting to use technology for our advantage? The casinos use it to protect themselves so why shouldn't we use it to cheat them?


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The short answer probably would be "Whatever gets the Money"
One time, when I was young, I botched a sleight so bad, Vernon, Marlo & Miller rolled over in their graves. But I didn't see Elmsley, probably because he was behind the others.
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There is a time and a place for both. People obviously don't learn. In another thread around here someone said loaded dice were found in Egyptians tombs. Whatever works and whatever suits you are and your style the best. I think there will always be a time and a place for some good ol sleight of hand.

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On 2007-12-18 17:28, magician8 wrote:
The casinos use it to protect themselves so why shouldn't we use it to cheat them?


Because cheating casinos is suicidal. The penalties are too great, and the rewards so intense that stopping after one or two good scores is not probable when human greed is considered.

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If you don’t want to waste your time, my advice is read, every carefully, and in context, anything and everything, Forte says. You could start with this for example:

http://www.elmagicshop.com/cgi-bin/webc.......ml%C2%A0

I trust you will grasp after reading this that your question is answered there.
If there is a single truth about Magic, it is that nothing on earth so efficiently evades it.

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+1
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One line poker is wide open to be cheated with technology and a little imagination.
If there is a single truth about Magic, it is that nothing on earth so efficiently evades it.

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On 2007-12-18 18:45, card cheat wrote:
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On 2007-12-18 17:28, magician8 wrote:
The casinos use it to protect themselves so why shouldn't we use it to cheat them?


Because cheating casinos is suicidal. The penalties are too great, and the rewards so intense that stopping after one or two good scores is not probable when human greed is considered.

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There are not any penalties at all in my country, so everybody is wellcome to cheat.
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There are NO penalties at all in your country for cheating casinos?!?!

Where do you live?

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There are NO penalties at all in your country for cheating casinos?!?!

Where do you live?


+1 on that one too
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His profile says he lives in Ukraine. Ilya, from what you are saying it sounds that corruption is such a way of life in your country right now that cheating is like "legal"? Please elaborate Smile
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On 2007-12-19 12:50, card cheat wrote:
There are NO penalties at all in your country for cheating casinos?!?!

Where do you live?

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Sorry, English is not my first language. Thank you. I live in Ukraine.
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On 2007-12-19 13:02, matu wrote:
His profile says he lives in Ukraine. Ilya, from what you are saying it sounds that corruption is such a way of life in your country right now that cheating is like "legal"? Please elaborate Smile
I cann't say, that cheating is absolutely legal. But if they see a cheat, they will just tell him - "go away!". Nobody will call police. Because police doesn't understand, what is card cheating. So it can proof nothing. Ukrainian police is not FBI:)
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I'm sure that there are laws against cheating there. You take that much money, and the interest to turn it into more money, and you have a good reason to prosecute cheaters to the fullest extent of the law.

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On 2007-12-19 13:34, Ilya wrote:
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On 2007-12-19 13:02, matu wrote:
His profile says he lives in Ukraine. Ilya, from what you are saying it sounds that corruption is such a way of life in your country right now that cheating is like "legal"? Please elaborate Smile
I cann't say, that cheating is absolutely legal. But if they see a cheat, they will just tell him - "go away!". Nobody will call police. Because police doesn't understand, what is card cheating. So it can proof nothing. Ukrainian police is not FBI:)
Yea but they would probably break both of your hands as well.

I am quite sure cheating is illegal and would be considerated by police and court as theft.
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On 2007-12-19 13:45, card cheat wrote:
I'm sure that there are laws against cheating there. You take that much money, and the interest to turn it into more money, and you have a good reason to prosecute cheaters to the fullest extent of the law.

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Card cheaters never were prosecuted in Ukraine.
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Maybe the handle it the way they used to handle it in Vegas.
"Get a life dude." -some guy in a magic forum
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[/quote]Yea but they would probably break both of your hands as well.

[quote/]Proubably they would, especially if you will be alone:)
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Isn't the entire Ukraine basically being run by organized crime?
"Get a life dude." -some guy in a magic forum
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On 2007-12-19 14:04, Ilya wrote:
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On 2007-12-19 13:45, card cheat wrote:
I'm sure that there are laws against cheating there. You take that much money, and the interest to turn it into more money, and you have a good reason to prosecute cheaters to the fullest extent of the law.

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Card cheaters never were prosecuted in Ukraine.
Because most of the games are private, and all the problems are solved privately.
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