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Mr. Ree Elite user Sedona AZ 414 Posts |
Zimmerman Dancing Ring. – Video?
Are there any videos of anyone doing a half-way decent job with this routine/item. I own it and have paper instructions. I know it will take some time. I just need some mindless practice. (Just kidding) I take one of these difficult type of routines on one at a time. I am trying to decide if this this is the one. P.S. Is this good for parlor, or only stage? How close can spectators be? I think I remember see this one as a kid. Wow, not gonna talk about that one.
An idea can turn to dust or magic, depending on the talent that rubs against it.
---- William Bernbach (1911 - 1982) ---- (After 25 years of PCs, everything switched to Macs, June 2008) |
Donal Chayce Inner circle 1770 Posts |
I purchased and played around with this a bit in the late 70s after seeing Dick perform it live. He then included it in his lecture for the local IBM ring the next day and I was sold.
I didn't find the various moves too terribly difficult to execute, however I couldn't come up with a presenation that worked for my act. Unless the lighting is perfect and it's a fairly large room (meaning the audience isn't too close), I don't think you could get away with this in a parlor setting. Also, IMHO, I don't think it's much of a fooler, even for lay audiences, but it sure is pretty to watch and fun to do. |
Mr. Ree Elite user Sedona AZ 414 Posts |
Donal Chayce:
Thanks, your comments about “lighting” and “not for parlor” are helpful. Most of my work is in a parlor setting and I was worried about how close can the audience be and possible lighting issues. I am trying to work it in to a show by having my strongest routines at the beginning, middle and end. Then to do a “break” using something that is more artful and pretty to watch. I was thinking about choosing something like. Zemmerman Dancing Ring Losander Bubble Dancing wand, (not cane) Linking silks But first three may not work in parlor environment. I have not tossed them as they may evolve into something that may work by changing the "material" that is used or as the basis for something completely new. It still would be nice to see the “Dancing Rings” in action.
An idea can turn to dust or magic, depending on the talent that rubs against it.
---- William Bernbach (1911 - 1982) ---- (After 25 years of PCs, everything switched to Macs, June 2008) |
Pete Biro 1933 - 2018 18558 Posts |
Get the strong kevlar It and don't drag it out very long an if he light is from he front, no top or back lighting, you can do it fairly close. Keep it moving and quick... no need to do every move in the book.
STAY TOONED... @ www.pete-biro.com
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Mr. Ree Elite user Sedona AZ 414 Posts |
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On 2007-12-28 18:37, Pete Biro wrote: Thank you, practical, helpful. Kevlar, not top or back lighting, quick movements and not a long routine, understood. This just save me a lot of work down the "wrong road".
An idea can turn to dust or magic, depending on the talent that rubs against it.
---- William Bernbach (1911 - 1982) ---- (After 25 years of PCs, everything switched to Macs, June 2008) |
geemack Loyal user Greg McNeil Peoria,Illinois 296 Posts |
Many of you remember Mr. Ed, a popular television show about a talking horse which aired in the early 1960's. The lead (human) character in the show, Wilbur, was an amateur magician. On one episode he attended a magician's convention. A few real magicians appeared on that episode as convention attendees/performers. Lou Derman appeared on the show. He was an accomplished professional magician as well as an occasional writer for the Mr. Ed show (and several others including Here's Lucy and All in the Family). Harry Blackstone performed on the show, too, and if I recall correctly, he did his classic Vanishing Bird Cage. Also on that episode, Dick Zimmerman performed the Dancing Ring. To see Dick performing the routine, you may want to look for an old archive copy of that Mr. Ed episode. I believe it was titled "Ed the Shishkebob", and originally aired around January of 1964.
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Pete Biro 1933 - 2018 18558 Posts |
Lou Derman wrote a great book on comedy magic. He was also known as 'Friday Night Lou' as he did close up almost every Friday night at the Castle for a looooong time.
He not only worte episodes of Mr. Ed, but HE WAS THE CREATOR OF THE SHOW. His brother Bill Derman, a top card man produced movies, most notably The Dead End Kids.
STAY TOONED... @ www.pete-biro.com
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Mr. Ree Elite user Sedona AZ 414 Posts |
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On 2008-01-04 19:54, geemack wrote: geemack: Thanks for the information. Series, episode and aired date? Quite impressive! I am starting my search for this "Mr. Ed" episode. (Think we can get the horse to fess up?)
An idea can turn to dust or magic, depending on the talent that rubs against it.
---- William Bernbach (1911 - 1982) ---- (After 25 years of PCs, everything switched to Macs, June 2008) |
engineer_star New user 99 Posts |
Mr Ree. and I have been looking for a similar BUBBLE WAND like the one Losander uses. I have written many Glass Tubing Producers searching for a 2" dia.(approx) Glass tubing. I've received 5 answers saying that they only carry tubes in very small diameters. I did find something that works great for now. It is the plastic tubing on "Party Blowouts" known as Blowouts Serpentins Pitos. I still want to get a glass one just because it looks so professional.
Sam |
Mr. Ree Elite user Sedona AZ 414 Posts |
Engineer_star:
Thanks for update. I'm using a "hack sawed" plastic turkey baster.(For now.)
An idea can turn to dust or magic, depending on the talent that rubs against it.
---- William Bernbach (1911 - 1982) ---- (After 25 years of PCs, everything switched to Macs, June 2008) |
Andrew H. Regular user Elizabethton,TN 124 Posts |
I have Zimmermans Dancing disk, Im pretty sure its the same as the ring...Boy is it a mind blower to read. So I understand where Mr. Ree is coming from, if any one knows of a place were we can see a performace it would be help full to both of us...I remember seeing it on a magic special from the late 70's early 80's, has any one seen this?
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Donal Chayce Inner circle 1770 Posts |
This link was just posted on another thread:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6FUQaJfEcQ It's a grainy tape, but you'll be able to see the full routine. |
Mr. Ree Elite user Sedona AZ 414 Posts |
Donal Chayce
Thanks, grainy or not, it helps. I don't know if it was this exact show but I remember seeing this set of routines on TV. Wouldn't it be nice to have a live band provide your "background" music instead of an MP3 player?
An idea can turn to dust or magic, depending on the talent that rubs against it.
---- William Bernbach (1911 - 1982) ---- (After 25 years of PCs, everything switched to Macs, June 2008) |
Pete Biro 1933 - 2018 18558 Posts |
I forgot how good the Dancing ring is... Dick does it so well.
STAY TOONED... @ www.pete-biro.com
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joseph Eternal Order Please ignore my 17407 Posts |
Indeed, awesome performance... ..
"Everything should be made as simple as possible, but no simpler." (Einstein)...
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Anatole Inner circle 1912 Posts |
The "Ed the Shishkabob" episode can be seen here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbE98CulTHk&t=1200s with Dick Zimmermann doing his Dancing Ring on Rope at about the 17:11 mark. We also see Blackstone doing the Vanishing Bird Cage and Botania. Interestingly, Dick has some trouble with the trick where the you-know-what gets tangled up. He recovers nicely, and considering that the premise of the episode was magicians entered in a contest, the trouble with the trick seems to be a natural part of any magic contest where things might go wrong, as all of us no doubt have experienced--if not in a contest, then in a live performance for the public. Dick also does the Dancing Ring on Rope in this clip https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJzPjAHz69A and again has trouble with the rope getting tangled up. ----- Amado "Sonny" Narvaez
----- Sonny Narvaez
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Anatole Inner circle 1912 Posts |
Bond Lee performs Dick Zimmerman's "Dancing Ring on Rope" in this video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tc2IoDYxais and Lee also has some trouble with the rope getting tangled up, as he does in this video also https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fsgv58ks4Bk ----- Amado "Sonny" Narvaez
----- Sonny Narvaez
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Pete Biro 1933 - 2018 18558 Posts |
I posted a clip on my Facebook page. I do not think Dick had trouble, that was one of his moves with it.
STAY TOONED... @ www.pete-biro.com
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