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TWOCAN
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Out of all the gaffed coin sets . What one would you guys ! and girls say would give a person the most miles for the money. I have my ideas and just looking for some more.
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Hopping Halves.
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I agree with Jaz... HH is a great investment. I would advise going with a silver coin set [either Johnson or Lassen/Schoolcraft].
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Yes they do have some nice gaffed set. Thanks
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I think you can do the most With A shell! So A hoping half would be great!
Lassem makes a double shell set! Last Time I looked anyway! Smile
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Hopping Halves, by a wide margin. You get gaffs you can use in a bunch of tricks. A couple of shells and a Sun & Moon coin make a bazillion routines possible.
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I'd have to say Lassen's Gravity Flipper and matching shell. If I had to pick only one, it would probabaly be the gravity flipper.
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The Lassen Gravity Flipper dose it for me. I have one on me all the time.
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Hopping Halves... hands down. I love my Lassen dollar set.

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I agree on the hopping halves. It was recommended to me at my local shop and I am thankful that it was. I can use just pieces of it for about any thing out of Bobo's coin magic book.
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I'm a fan of shells, both exp and L type! A gravity flipper makes for a nice add to ['s!
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Copper silver and shell. C/S is durable, inexpensive and can create some really strong impossible looking magic using basic palms and basic utility moves. The ] is incredibly powerful and versitile but takes time to learn to use properly.

I've never liked hopping halves because there's so much tin to put back together (reset). Mark Jenest has a wonderful effect much like the hopping half called "short hop" which uses a C/S coin. It instantly re-sets. Oh, did I mentinon that eh C/S coin is among the least expensive rugged of the coin gaffs?
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I'm a little disappointed. I don't use many gaffs myself so I was hoping to get a lot of good info on various gaffs from this tread.

The first time I saw Hopping Halves I thought to myself "that is the most obviously gaffed coin routine I've ever seen"...Coin bite and cig through coin not withstanding....I bought it anyway...Got some mileage out of it, but almost never use it any more. (Curtis Kam has a version that uses a C/S gimmick that is a stronger effect).

I get ten times the reaction from a Hanging Coins type effect that is a combination of one of Kainoa Harbottle's hanging coins and his Slapping Mutobe effects.

The HH gaff does is a combination of several gaffs, all of which you could put to use, however.


PS I have been having a ball with the Cerberus gimmick lately.
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I was also going to suggest a copper/silver coin, but Rich beat me to it. It is inexpensive (under $10, even for the Johnson version), durable (no moving parts), resets instantly and lets you do some great things with just a few basic sleights. Yes, it is amazingly simple, but it's a time-tested fooler, having been around for at least 400 years. And once you learn how to ring it in and out of your routine, your "half dollar" can also be left on the table for examination! A ] is also a great tool, but is not quite as durable (don't drop it!) and requires more precise handling, so that's why I'd go for the C/S coin first.

My only addition to Rich's thought would be to get TWO C/S coin sets, plus another extra English Penny or two, they are very inexpensive. This sets you up for some great routines from Bobo's "Modern Coin Magic," the David Roth books and one of the Roth DVD's, Volume 1 of "Ultimate Coin Magic, which features several C/S effects, click HERE to view.

You should also take a look at Jules DeBarros' great "Coins of Ishtar" booklet, also under $10, which features a very neat turnover move using a pair of C/S coins, probably based on the old "Two Card Monte" turnover move. There is also a good no-sleight triple transposition routine, and a few other good ideas with C/S coins, click HERE for more info. For about $50 in coins, books and DVD's, you will get a lot of great magic. SETH
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On 2008-01-06 21:09, Wes65 wrote:
I'm a little disappointed. I don't use many gaffs my self so I was hoping to get a lot of good info on various gaffs from this tread.

The first time I saw Hoppin Halves I thought to myself "that is the most obviously gaffed coin routine I've ever seen"...coin bite and cig through coin not withstanding....I bought it any way...got some mileage out of it, but almost never use it any more. (Curtis Kam has a version that uses a C/S gimmick that is a stronger effect).

I get ten time the reaction from a Hanging Coins type effect that is a combination of one of Kainoa Harbottle's hanging coins and his Slapping Mutobe effects.

The HH gaff does is a combination of several gaffs, all of which you could put to use, however.


PS I have been having a ball with the Cerberus gimmick lately.

Sounds like you are approaching the HH as a routine that has to be done according to the directions provided.
I think what everyone who suggested it here were trying to say was that the HH set provides a set of utility gaffs that can be used in many ways. There are 2 E['s provided, and there is no more versatile single item you can buy than a E[.
I never perform the HH routine, but I use E[s often.
See this thread for some ideas,

http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewt......m=202&12

or just search expanded shell in Cafésearch, there's a wealth of material on E[s.
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On 2008-01-07 10:15, DStachowiak wrote:
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On 2008-01-06 21:09, Wes65 wrote:
I'm a little disappointed. I don't use many gaffs my self so I was hoping to get a lot of good info on various gaffs from this tread.

The first time I saw Hoppin Halves I thought to myself "that is the most obviously gaffed coin routine I've ever seen"...coin bite and cig through coin not withstanding....I bought it any way...got some mileage out of it, but almost never use it any more. (Curtis Kam has a version that uses a C/S gimmick that is a stronger effect).

I get ten time the reaction from a Hanging Coins type effect that is a combination of one of Kainoa Harbottle's hanging coins and his Slapping Mutobe effects.

The HH gaff does is a combination of several gaffs, all of which you could put to use, however.


PS I have been having a ball with the Cerberus gimmick lately.

Sounds like you are approaching the HH as a routine that has to be done according to the directions provided.
I think what everyone who suggested it here were trying to say was that the HH set provides a set of utility gaffs that can be used in many ways. There are 2 E['s provided, and there is no more versatile single item you can buy than a E[.
I never perform th HH routine, but I use E[s often.
See this thread for some ideas, http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewt......m=202&12 or just search expanded shell in Cafésearch, ther's a wealth of material on E[s


Good point.
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I definitely agree with getting the HH. Also a good set is: "Visible Coin Penetration". You get a flipper coin and a steelcore half. Another good set is "Magnetic Copper/Silver". You get a shimmed unexpanded half, a magnetic CS(shaved), a steel core english penny(shaved), and a regular englich penny(shaved) for 60 bucks. Personally this last set offers a ton of room for creativity, with the magnetic properties you can take Scotch and Soda to many new levels.
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There is a wealth of in-the-hands and on-the-close-up-pad routines and moves using a Sh*** gaffus. I would recommend getting standard coins sleights down pat, and then adding gaffs where the gaffs enhance what you want to achieve. My first choice would be this gaff.

The Fli**** coin is becoming more popular, thanks to the work of Troy Hooser, Dan Watkins, and others. I especially like Dan's "four coins, your hands", an in-the-spectator's-hands Coins Across using the gaff. This gaff would be my second choice.

Coin gaffs are just another tool in the magician's arsenal, they don't solve all problems and shouldn't be seen as a panacea or as a replacement for sleight of hand chops. Some of my favorite coin effects use zero gaffs.

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TWOCAN

You mentioned gaffed coin sets, this is not a set but I got tons of mileage out of it.

Cigarette thru quarter.

When I first saw it done 30+ years ago I did not like it at all, until I performed it myself. The audience went nuts when I did it. That’s the effect they talked about when I left the table.

I haven’t used it lately because I don’t have a “new” quarter and you have to borrow the quarter to really enhance the effect. Not sure how today’s audience will react to it now.

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Spcarlson,

Good call! I forgot about Cig (I use bic stic) through Quarter.

This is portable, uses a Borrowed Object (always enhances the mojo), and is a stunner. Don't underestimate how freaky this looks to audiences.

There are ways around the State Quarter dilemma, which have been explored on other threads. BTW Garrett Thomas has the most invisible switch I have ever (not) seen for the gaff.

Douglas M.
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