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The great trouble with magicians is the fact that they believe when they have bought a certain trick or piece of apparatus, and know the method or procedure, that they are full-fledged mystifiers. -- Harry Houdini
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Mark Rough Inner circle Ivy, Virginia 2110 Posts
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Ah, thanks for spotting that. I had no idea. My wife will not be happy. . .
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Markymark Inner circle 1691 Posts
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Brilliant!! Also the long awaited Paul Wilson set!
''In memory of a once fluid man,crammed and distorted by the classical mess'' -Bruce Lee
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korttihai_82 Inner circle Finland 1880 Posts
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This might be real must have set. Sadly the trick he does on the demo doesn't use the presentation he used in it on the lecture few years back. The way he does it on the demo is boring and basic. At lecture it was engaging, thought provoking and in every way superior to the one in the demo. However it might be the case that he shows the other version on the dvd as well as an example how to make it much stronger.
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sirbrad Inner circle PA 2096 Posts
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Yeah it is a demo after all, not a full performance most likely as he would show it live. Did he use a mirage or Svengali deck for that effect to prove his point?
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zombieboy Special user Connecticut, USA 889 Posts
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On 2008-01-05 16:19, korttihai_82 wrote: I believe this to be the case. |
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Mark Rough Inner circle Ivy, Virginia 2110 Posts
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On 2008-01-05 16:19, korttihai_82 wrote: Yes, I believe that is the point. To show two different presentations, a very standard one, and a thoroughly thought out one. Very much looking forward to this.
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Balaram Special user 904 Posts
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According to the description, he shows EIGHT different presentations of the Black Envelope--:)!!
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erlandish Inner circle Vancouver, Canada 1254 Posts
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Aw shoot -- I just finished the first draft of a book that was working with the same basic premise (not this black envelope thing, but doing multiple presentations of the same trick). At least I can take some comfort in knowing I had a good idea on my hands.
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sirbrad Inner circle PA 2096 Posts
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Glad some magicians are smart enough to see through a seemingly bad demo...Although they lose money from the less smarter ones who assume this is the as good as the video gets. It covers the more important elements of magic theory and their applications.
The great trouble with magicians is the fact that they believe when they have bought a certain trick or piece of apparatus, and know the method or procedure, that they are full-fledged mystifiers. -- Harry Houdini
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Cameron Francis V.I.P. 7025 Posts
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There's nothing to "see past". At the beginning of the demo, Eugene clearly talks about the difference between presenting magic as a stunt as opposed to something truly magical. Then the title appears on the screen, "The Black Envelope: A Stunt". Which means it is supposed to be an uninteresting presentation of the effect. Basically, an example of what not to do.
I'm sorry but how could anyone miss that. It's as clear as day as it's written on the screen.
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korttihai_82 Inner circle Finland 1880 Posts
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On 2008-01-06 07:44, Cameron Francis wrote: Easily with low resolution monitor, 4 am at the night when your sleepy 
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King14 Loyal user 268 Posts
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Is this the Bob Kohler Black Envelope he is talking about??????
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Cameron Francis V.I.P. 7025 Posts
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Touche, korttihai_82
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truthteller Inner circle 2584 Posts
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It is not the Kohler Envelope trick.
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The Mac Inner circle 1982 Posts
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The trick in the demo - where can I get it from? It looks so clean.... drool..
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Powers of the Mime Regular user 126 Posts
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Um, Burger's DVD.
A mime is a terrible thing to waste.
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The Mac Inner circle 1982 Posts
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Lol..i mean is there any other sources..this is the famed black envelope right?
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Powers of the Mime Regular user 126 Posts
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No, its not what you're thinking, its a much older idea.
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sirbrad Inner circle PA 2096 Posts
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On 2008-01-06 07:44, Cameron Francis wrote: OH darn, I was getting popcorn at that time. (seriously)
The great trouble with magicians is the fact that they believe when they have bought a certain trick or piece of apparatus, and know the method or procedure, that they are full-fledged mystifiers. -- Harry Houdini
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