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On 2008-02-24 20:14, emyers99 wrote:
I do have to disagree with those that thought the 8 card brainwave variation was an improvement over the original. I (and my wife who watched it with me) disagree. I actually thought it was a step backwards. What used to be a slow and fair display is now a cramped and rushed display where you barely see the backs of the cards. Plus, bringing the cards up to chest level to show the backs is a very unnatural move.


Do be fair, have you performed Paul's version for lay people?
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Nope. Knowing that there was a variation on the dvd, I performed the original handling for my wife without telling her what it was called. We then watched the performance on the dvd. I asked her what she thought and she gave me her thoughts. Then I told her it was the same trick I had just performed but with a different method. I can't remember her exact response but she was definately surprised that it was the same trick. I asked her why she didn't like the new version and she basically said it looked too "tricky" and she actually was the one that said, "no one turns cards over like that" when I asked her which display she preferred. She also didn't like the fact that you couldn't see as much of the back color as in the original. (and that was on a 60 inch tv mind you).

If it works for you, great. I just didn't think it was as good as the original. The fact that it didn't pass the wife test was an added negative.
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I was just curious. In the original, no one turns cards like that either.
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Maybe not, but I guess my point (and apparently my wife's) was that we liked the slower original display because of both the pace and the fact that more card back is seen. Looks less unnatural and hurried.
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Eric,I understand what you're saying and respect your wifes opinion ( a smart and obervant Lady she is ).

As far as the "speed" on the displays, the performer decides the speed. Paul ( anyone ) could have gone as fast or as slow as he wanted. Until anyone of us does a daunting L&L shoot ( it's not a 45 minute show or showing one trick for a starnager or someone we know, but all day/all night affairs ) it's hard to know what a perfromer goes through in presenting their material.

Eric, based on that, I think the showing of the backs of 3 cards instead of two is indeed an improvement. I'm not trying to convice you, you have your own performance style and an eye for what works for you. I'm telling folks that perform 8 Card Brainwave to have a look at this because I think, IMHO, it offers a step forward.
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I also didn't think the DVD version was a significant (if at all) improvement over the original. Different yes, but not so sure if it's worth the bother, and for the very reasons that Eric mentioned. That being said, I haven't performed the DVD version yet. But when I do it won't be for Eric's wife, that's for sure.
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HA! That was funny. My wife is a tough critic for sure but I'll tell her to go easy on you.

As to Christopher's post, I certainly agree that speed and performance style are up to the performer. And the fact that I didn't care for the presentation shouldn't stop others from giving it a shot. My point was simply that, at least in my opinion, this was a case of running when you are not being chased. As for being able to see 3 backs instead of 2...to be honest, even though I knew that was the case before I watched the dvd, when I did watch the dvd, the display was so quick that I honestly didn't even know three backs were shown. I had to watch it a second time before I could notice the three backs. After 20+ years performing magic, my brain is probably getting soft. In any event, the version is certainly different. I just don't think the added effort adds anything to the overall effect in a spectator's eyes. The additions are most likely noticeable only by magicians.

But maybe I'm biased towards the original because I recently learned that Nick Trost lives here in Columbus.
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Not to change the subject but I will.
Christopher, I'll bet you have the answer to this. Exactly what copper coin is Wilson using in Popper Bound. I was surprised to find that in my sizeable coin collection that I had no coins matching the necessary dimensions.
Come to think of it, any one is welcome to answer this.
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It's an early English Penny ca. 1841. You can find them on E-bay or at a coin shop.
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I'm not sure what the coins is. I use an Eisenhower Dollar and an old pirate slot coin from Treasure Island in Las Vegas.
"Of all words of tongue and pen,
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Thank you both. Imagine my surprise. I actually had an early English Penny. The poor thing was so beat up it just looks like a round lump of copper.
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On 2008-02-26 21:12, emyers99 wrote:
HA! That was funny. My wife is a tough critic for sure but I'll tell her to go easy on you.



I am going to have to get this set and see if I can learn it and sway Eric's wife. He may think she is a tough critic but when I ran through some of my best stuff for her over lunch last year, Eric ended up buying or learning all of them. So at least, I am able to impress her....the true beauty that she is.
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Family/friends that ahve seen magic over and over and over again....become jaded on what works in the real world. They enter a certain "zone". They aren't Magicians, they don't perform...but they have opinions on what's good. They're smart and observant and can be right or wrong ( just like us Magicians;-)
"Of all words of tongue and pen,
the saddest are, "It might have been"

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Whether you like the way Paul performs or not, the real value in these DVD's is the material. If there are some who can't see that, then perhaps that's better for the rest of us. I was very happy with what I learned from this set.
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Paul himself admits to not being a "wild and crazy guy".

Paul grew up in Scottland and learned magic from books. He became skilled enough to cross the oceans to be known as one of the top sleight of hand artists in the world.

Poor Paul is going to miss going back to a crappy, "real", 9-5 job on Monday.

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If you understand dry Scottish humor than you'll think Paul is actually very funny.

If you don't get it, Paul will appear miserable to you.
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I'm sure Paul would have a 9 to 5 job....if the interviewer could stay awake long enough to hire him! I'm kidding! Paul is a good guy with a good sense of humor, his delivery is just rather slow.
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Lol. Magic Santa wins the debate ( as usual ).

The magic on the DVD's is first rate and that's what counts.

Paul does have a very sly sense of humor and can do what many TOP professionals in all fields do: poke fun at himself.
"Of all words of tongue and pen,
the saddest are, "It might have been"

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On 2008-01-11 21:12, sirbrad wrote:
R. Paul Wilson has some skills, but I think he should pick up Eugene's new DVD so he can learn how to present magic without inducing yawns.


Agreed......No Meaning at all.....I respect Mr Paul Wilson, I own his PREDATOR WALLET and its been in my right cheek (Pants) for more than one year.....and Psyco Killer is been with me and sealed so many Booking for me....... but for Laymen......Mr Eugene Hindu Thread Presentation is a LOT Stronger than ANY of the Effect perform in Mr Wilson DVD.......How do I know.......I tested it to few of my NON Magic Buddies when I show them the "Performance Only"

Maybe in a Paying Audience/Clients, Mr Wilson perform with his Fully Scripted and Meaaningfull Magic, and his performance in his DVD is only to highlight the Tricks with Capital T

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