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So that you know what I am comparing this to:

I have bought both books and DVDs that teach the
following methods. (Yes I love tear and restores.)

1. Astor’s Sealed Miracle No. 3 Miracle Paper Tear”.
2. Gene Anderson - Torn & Restored Newspaper
3. Robert Baxt - Better Newspaper tear
4. Mark Mason - No Tear Torn & Restored Newspaper
5. Joel Bauer’s Trade Show Torn & Restored Newspaper
6. Paul Potassy Newspaper tear
7. Fielding West – Torn & Restored Newspaper
8. Richard Osterlind – Signed Torn & Restored Newpaper
9. Steve Dacri – Torn & Restored Magazine
10. Alex Elmsley – Torn & Restored Newspaper
11. Working on Slydini method at this time.

I have reviewed all of the above and practiced the ones that looked like
they would work for me.

I presently perform either the Gene Anderson or the Robert Baxt method
for my opening routine set to music with no talking from me.
(Part of a 25 minute show.)

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Punch line for: “Astor’s Sealed Miracle No. 3 Miracle Paper Tear”?

This is by far my least favorite method because it tries to be better than the others
by doing at least three things I don’t care for.

1. “Normal” presentation depends on someone in the audience having a newspaper, there is a “fallback” method listed but it is exactly that "a fallback”. There are other requirments from this “audience” provided newspaper that I cannot detail here.

2. I also don’t care for the handling of the “marking”. I don’t know how to talk about this without revealing too much but the Osterlind method is much better if you think you want to mark the newspaper in some way.

3. Believe it or not you need to "do stuff to" your clothing for Astor’s! (I can’t say more than this.)

Small nit pick, ad talks about “full color instructions” but other than the cover picture, and the small duplicate of the cover picture inside the instructions are on black pages with white lettering. There are only 3 very small hand drawn pictures and no other pictures or photos. Everything provided about this routine is on 13 pages. There are 7 additional pages in the booklet that are ads for other products. There were also many loose pages included that were more ads for other products.

I have learned something from every one of the methods that I have studied above
things that I may be able to use in the future. But the only thing I learned from the
Astor’s method is that I don’t like it.

For me, I could have passed on “Astor’s Sealed Miracle No. 3 Miracle Paper Tear” and not missed a thing.
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Mr. Ree,

I have performed the Anderson & Bauer tears but recently I saw a young man perform the Osterlind tear on a Youtube clip. This really looked impressive to me assuming the video wasn't edited. What is your opinion of the Osterlind tear re difficulty and effect on the audience??

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On 2008-01-06 00:56, afuoco wrote:
Mr. Ree,

I have performed the Anderson & Bauer tears but recently I saw a young man perform the Osterlind tear on a Youtube clip. This really looked impressive to me assuming the video wasn't edited. What is your opinion of the Osterlind tear re difficulty and effect on the audience??

Arnie

I first learned this from Disc 4 of “Richard Osterlinds’s Mind
Mysteries series. I highly recommend this series.

Later I ended up with another copy when I bought World’s Greatest Magic
“The secrets of Torn&Restored Newspaper”. This disc is great for anyone that is
interested in learning Tear and Restores. It has 6 different routines, 1 of them is “gag” routine.
Good value for the price.

This is one of the methods I like but don’t use on a regular basis.

It’s not that I like it that much less, it’s that it doesn’t fit with my
present 25 minute show as well as the Anderson or Baxt method.
(I do this as my opener to music. No talking on my part.)

It is difficult to compare the two because they are
like apples and oranges. Both good, but very different.

Here are my present thoughts on the Osterlind method.
Others will have different opinion(s).
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Comments that are neither pro nor con:

1.Osterlind is not a flash restore, but a unfolding restore.
I am not listing this as a pro or con because.

The flash restore gets a quick/surprised reaction.
But tension and or suspense followed by "release" can be
brought out during the “unfolding” of the Osterlind restore.

2.Anderson seems to work with talking, or only music.
Osterlind seems to need talking. (Haven’t figured out music only method.)

3.Recommend size for Osterlind is tabloid, not regular newspaper.
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Osterlind Pros:

1.. This is the best method that I know of if you want the newspaper signed.
Yes the signing seems to please the most skeptical. (Not simply a dupe paper.)

2. Tearing, one sheet is easier than Anderson multiple sheets.

Osterlind Cons:

1. The preparation takes some time. It is very different then Anderson’s
preparation but will take more effort than Baxt or many of the others.
(Don’t know how to say more with out tipping.)

2. The user selecting a sheet has “handling” to it.

3.. The handling during the unfolding is more difficult than Anderson/Baxt.

4.. The “finish” handling is more difficult than Anderson/Baxt.

5. You don’t show as many sheets after the restore as the Anderson
method as you only have one sheet.
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Hope this helps.

Best,
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Great response Mr Ree.

From your analysis, I think it's not an effect I would do since the Anderson is too much work for me and the Bauer is just under the difficulty threshold for me. The Bauer is the one I use. However, I will go ahead and buy it, because it does amaze me and I enjoy learning clever methods even if it's something I don't use.

Thanks again

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I bought the World's Greatest Magic DVD on newspaper tears. And I must say the Osterlind T&R is very simple and effective. I am switching to his T&R but changing the ending slightly. His ending to wind up clean is a bit suspicious to me. But I must say I am impressed with the simplicity of Osterlind's effect.

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I really do like "World's Greatest Magic DVD".


Here's another DVD that just came out.

Torn and Restored Newspaper Illusion - The Complete Collection
http://www.mjmmagic.com/store/torn-and-r......657.html

I haven't seen it, so no comments yet.
An idea can turn to dust or magic, depending on the talent that rubs against it.
---- William Bernbach (1911 - 1982) ----

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Torn and Restored Newspaper Illusion - The Complete Collection
has (9) routines.

But I am sorry to say it looks like they ripped off Gene Anderson in the last routine. The call it the "Classic". They give credit to Gene, but do they
have permission to do his method?

It is a MagicMakers DVD. I didn't know when I ordered it. I
also did not know when I bought this that "Classic" was the Anderson method.
I would have not bought this disk.
An idea can turn to dust or magic, depending on the talent that rubs against it.
---- William Bernbach (1911 - 1982) ----

(After 25 years of PCs, everything switched to Macs, June 2008)
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