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Lion Dope
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Zen Master by Darwin Ortiz. BTW, if you do stack work, Eric Mead's stack essays in Tangled Web are a must- read!
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Maximum Risk by Ortiz. But I now do the other version in the book that doesn't require a stack.
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I have a primordial, formless swarm of ideas not yet developed into any kind of full-blown tricks. But I'm happy to say that I have memorised the Aronson stack this very evening and it was pretty smooth going Smile I'm not up to speed on the recall yet, obviously; there are a couple of associative steps I have to go through.

I was myself into mnemonics, and 'lightning calculation' tricks, before I really got into the rest of mentalism and magic. So a few years ago I memorised the squares of numbers from 1 to 100. Not that I can recall those now!
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Man, whoever created this thread is a jenius. It's nice to learn what pushed people into memorized deck.

Nspikito: I think the trick you're talking about is called "Hands Off Memory Test," which is something I perform regularly.


Janus: As you may know, Denis Behr has a version of this effect that takes you into stack order. Personally, I prefer the similar in handling Vollmer trick called Earthly Powers (fewer cards, kicker ending, spectator can cut the packet that gets "dealt").
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I didn't really learn a stack for a specific trick, rather learned it after a recommendation from Jon Racherbaumer to check out Simon Aronson. I saw the potentials a stack possesed, especially in his work, and became hooked. But If I could choose a trick to demonstrate the power of a memdeck and why I still use this tool, it would be Histed Hiested. Can't think of a more powerful mind-reading demonstration than that.
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LOL I remember way back when I was a child, I found Eight Kings in a library book and saw the possibilities. I learnt the system and promptly performed what I thought was an awesome trick for my mum. Well, I guess I just caught her at the wrong moment and she was harrassed/busy, because it did not have the impact that I had hoped for. I must have got disillusioned and just left it for so many years. When I read the mnemonic again on ths very forum it was remarkable. Anyway, the Aronson work is coming along nicely. I hope to get some Aronson literature for Xmas.

Last week, I was actually playing around with an interlaced Eight Kings/Jackass setup, adding offsets to the sequences, and adding new suit cycles such as DSCH (the musical cryptogram that Russian composer Dmitri Shostakovich used) and SCHD ('schedule'). Man, what a tangled web of mnemonic epicycles! Anyway, it's much easier just to memorise a deck and have done with it!
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It was 'Group Shuffle' by Aronson that did it for me... Magician friend did the trick and blew me off my feet.
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It was "2 Beginnings" From Aronson and Bill Malone's "Hands Off Memory Test".
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In 1999 my partner Tom Allen was working the Castle.

While there Gordon Bean gave me a copy of Simon Aronson's A Stack to remember. THANKS GORDON!
I had seen Simon do wonders at the A1 Close-Up Conventions in Sacramento and I'd seen Mike Close do amazing things with the stack as well, so I knew it was VERY POWERFUL.

Shortly before Tom's engagement at the Castle I had suffered a big emotional loss and when ever that happens to me I treat myself for getting through it by learning something I always wanted to do. So, I had no clear goal, I just wanted to memorize the stack. It took my mind off things and I got a Great tool to boot.

I memorized the stack before I realized that there was a nemonic system in a couple of pages that would have made it easier. DOU!

My friend Dennis Loomis is always frying me with Aronson stuff I haven't seen.

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I knew in order to have A workable a.c.a.a.n. I would need to know A mem. deck and after working at it for many months I can honestly say I've developed a very impressiive method. Only one deck used out from the begining, after hearing the card and number I just dump out the cards and hand the deck over and let them count the cards face up in a pile until they reach their selected number and find their chosen card. This method requires no estimation of the cards you will know just what needs to be done, and the only thing the spectator will see is you handing them the deck. This is not John Borns Meant To Be it is much simpler and uses no gaffs. Just you and your mem. deck.
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Drphil, sounds interesting. What memdeck do you use?
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Edh. I use the Aronson stack but any well memorised stack will work.
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Drphil, Are you selling this? Is there some video somewhere of you performing this?
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I'm in the proces of finishing an Ebook. Though it will only work for those that know A mem. deck. However if you know A mem. deck there is an a.c.a.a.n. that meets john borns conditions. with different handeling and much simpler math. Same results just easier to do. This is not to put borns method down or any one who uses his method. I have and enjoy meant to be, and it was only after trying to master his method that I knew I had to come up with something different.
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Sounds interesting!
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The Si Stebbins is awesome! I've been using it for 3 years and NOBODY has figured it out. I have 3 different ways of using it. I do a thing where I pretend that I can hear the different sounds that every card makes and by that I can tell which card is missing ( they freak out). And then the obvious mind reading effect and lastly, an automatic writing effect where I have them hold the end of the pen and I pretend that they are doing the writing. I've had people drop the pen!
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To Amazingjim210,
Try doing Mike Close's Guatamalen Miracle with a Si Stebbins. I like it a lot.
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It's not a specific trick for me, it's pure influence by Senor Juan Tamariz! I've been using cyclical stacks for years but I decided to get Mnemonica and commit myself to it. I feel like a noob again! What a wonderful feeling!
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I saw a Simon Aronson lecture and was hooked by the concept. Oddly, I learned the Tamariz stackc. It seems that Aronson, Tamariz, Close and Richardson are the most common inspirations. Asi Wind does some nice work with one too.
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