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I suspect most people decided to adopt a stack because they saw a trick (or tricks) they just had to perform. (I suppose a slim minority of others found it attractive for entirely different reasons.) For me it was definitely Ackerman's Opener. This routine clearly affected my thinking because it made me want to incorporate a true full deck blockbuster trick into the stack I would choose. Ackerman uses tetradistic stack, which is two faros away from grouping together each and every four of a kind in the pack. Needless to say, his routining excellent.
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For me, it was ACAAN effect (Barrie Richardson's on his excellent TOTM). I even memorized Aronson Stack just from Mr Aronson's free PDF on memorized deck magic on his website. I learnt the stack within a few days (or weeks?) and it's worth all the effort! Not only ACAAN (which makes me want to memorize a stack), now I can do many killer routines.. not to mention Mr Aronson's Everybody Lazy
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For me, it was Histed Heisted by Simon Aronson. I originally used to use the Paul Fox Miracle Gimick routine, but I really did not like the requisite fishing. Even though the fishing techniques were extremely well crafted, I could never remember them well enough to perform the routine with confidence. When I read Aronson's approach with Histed Heisted, I knew what I had to do.
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I cannot recall.

I know this much: it was an effect of Simon Aronson's, probably from having read something about it written by John Bannon. I remember this because I went into a local magic shop to find a book of Simon's so that I could learn his stack. Unfortunately, the book that I got was Simply Simon; it doesn't list Simon's stack at all! However, it has a ton of great effects. I finally got Bound to Please and, as they say, Bob's your uncle.
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Everybody's Lazy by Simon Aronson. Arguably the best mem deck trick ever created. I read the effect in Simply Simon and had to learn a stack. (Aronson Stack.)

My other main reason for learning a mem deck was to have an easy set up for a shuffle bored effect.
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This might be distracting, but if anyone who posts wants to also add a note indicating which trick might inspire someone to memorize a stack today, I'd appreciate it. I'm a little intimidated by stacks and would love to do something to introduce me to these types of effects.
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I think my inspiration came from Michael Close videotapes firstly but the trick that really made me learn my stack cold was Darwin Ortiz´s zen master.
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Now that I've thought about it some more, I think it was Michael Close's The Invisible Deck.

I think.
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On 2008-01-12 09:11, organicmagician wrote:
This might be distracting, but if anyone who posts wants to also add a note indicating which trick might inspire someone to memorize a stack today, I'd appreciate it. I'm a little intimidated by stacks and would love to do something to introduce me to these types of effects.


Not distracting at all. That was actually a central part of my evil plan, but instead of asking people to speculate I elected to emphasize real, authentic experience. It's fun to learn others' experience, how they work. It also prevents initiates from being bombarded with ten posters submitting overlapping lists of brilliant mem-deck tricks they think might interest someone with casual interest (there are already half a dozen such threads).

This thread was inspired by someone recounting an episode where a magician was badly fooled by "The Trick that Cannot be Explained" (using a memorized deck). The problem is that this is something we must experience first hand in order to fully understand, either a spectator or performer. Similarly, it's difficult to describe what makes mem-stack use so enriching, but I think it has something to do with a definite underlying structure and open-ended possibility. Plus, you can do impossible three card locations like Everybody's Lazy Smile
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When Steve Ehlers performed his 3 card location for me. It shook me to my foundation. I HAD to find out how it was done.
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Barrie Richardson's ACAAN. I actually learned Nikola because that was the only source for mem decks that I had then. I'v e since become an Aronson fan.


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Well, it wasn't a trick, it was a book: The Faber edition of Encyclopedia of Card Tricks. I had already gotten into mnemonics when I found Harry Lorayne's How to Develop a Super-Power Memory. I had used it extensively in High School for memorizing formulas in Physics, Valences in Chemistry, and all kinds of things. While at the University of Michigan I had lots of opportunity to do close-up magic in my dormitory, etc. I got the Encyclopedia of Card Tricks and discovered the Nikola Card System in the back of the book. Because I had already used the Harry Lorayne card mnemonics to some extent, I used his card codes and learned the Nikola Stack. During those college years, I used the stack for things like "weighing" the cards, knowing how many cards were in a cut, etc. After graduating I went into magic full time and became a stand up performer. While I had a few close up things I could do, over the course of years, I stopped using the Nikola stack. And, of course, forgot it. Years later, after settling in Northern California, my love for close up was rekindled and I began to actually book some work doing close up. Even today, I do more stand up shows, but I work close up whenever possible because the intimate association with your spectators gives a different kind of satisfaction. Having been in magic, and having worked with the Nikola stack, I decided to get back into memdeck work. I was well aware of Simon Aronson from the time he was one of Marlo's "proteges." And I was aware of his stack. So, I bought a copy of Bound to Please and I was off and running. I found that Histed Heisted was something I could do often in stand up shows so it was the first thing that I really started using.

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I have always seen the power of the memorised deck in its application as a utility device.

Rather than being drawn towards the tool due to a particular effect, I have always recognised how I could improve the power of effects that I already perform, with the addition of the memorised deck.

Mind you, I am only now beginning to trully get stuck into learning a deck, but once I have it down I know that I will not rush to add particular tricks to my repertoire, but rather, I will spend time fine tuning, and perfecting pieces into real miracles.

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For me it was also Barrie Richardson's ACAAN effect in his Theatre of the Mind best seller. And Juan Tamariz had just come out with his Mnemonica book which has dozens of great memdeck effects.

Many thanks to Nick Pudar for his wonderful Stackview utility! It’s definitely a wonderful tool to learn and keep your memdeck sharp (33 is the Eight of Clubs!).


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I figured I could use it to to something like Lennart Green does when he asks someone to name a card and then has that card appear in some odd fashion. A trick for which he ironically doesn't use a memorized deck at all. Smile

It suddenly occurrs to me now that I haven't actually ever done this myself after learning the Aronson Stack.
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My very first magic lecture was by Michael Close. He asked someone to name a card, and then was able to cut to that card. I waited quite a few years before putting the effort into memorizing a stack, but am glad I did.

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To Noobini,
One of the best of the "spectator names a card" effects along the lines you suggest is Simon Aronson's "Two Beginnings" from Try the Impossible.
https://loomismagic.com/item4330.htm

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Tameriz 4 of kind, saw it on a video and it had me really entralled
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