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mghia Veteran user Kymystical 387 Posts |
I am looking into this one as well. If you can hang on. I just found about 4 or 5 sub $150 headsets! They all look about the same and infact, most of them, confirmed by one manufacturer who used to rep for DPA, and is now selling his own, says that all but DPA and possibly Countryman, are using the same mic element! And I have confirmed this by the published specs. And BTW TWO of them are Cardioid.
So if they are all using the same element, I am going to assume that what will need to be compared is the quality of the frame. I am doing a write up on my findings and will present it shortly. However if anyone want to participate in an experiment of buying some of these and testing them, PM. It would be nice to have a DPA or country man to compare to. I have a Shure PGX system. I will post in a new topic since this one is about over one ear or two. SO to continue this, those who have headsets, do you like wire frame over the ears or silicone pads? Do you like ears that fold down for storage or find it changes the stability? Quote:
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Dan McLean Jr aka, Magic Roadie Special user Toronto, Canada 804 Posts |
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On 2008-01-15 22:27, mghia wrote: The "distilled water" approach used to be in the manual for all DPA lav & headset mics, and I know I've done it many times. I also know our high-end theatre clients do it on a regular basis. Distilled water was recommended because it can rinse-away the solids left behind from your sweat, and then leaves nothing behind. I don't know why the distilled water approach is no longer in the manual, but perhaps a call to DPA will help provide the answer. This from the DPA site http://www.dpamicrophones.com/page.php?PID215 ; "The life expectancy of the mics is proving good. We've found that we can successfully wash them in distilled water and put them back into use a number of times. They seem to be less susceptible to sweat damage than other makes." Here's a link to the DPA site with the original info on the DPA mics, and it talks about the distilled water method. The DPA lavs & headsets are the same mic element. http://www.dpamicrophones.com/Images/DM01974.pdf
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Kevin Ridgeway V.I.P. Indianapolis, IN & Phoenix, AZ 1832 Posts |
Our DPA has literally been inside Kristen's Water Torture Cell. It dried out and has performed flawlessly for 18 months now.
Kevin P.S. I don't think the water was distilled either...LOL
Living Illusions
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Dan McLean Jr aka, Magic Roadie Special user Toronto, Canada 804 Posts |
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On 2008-01-16 08:45, Living Illusions wrote: That's HILARIOUS, Kevin! You should consider contacting DPA about that! SERIOUSLY! At the very least, I'm sure they'd get a real kick out of it. Cheers from Toronto!
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mghia Veteran user Kymystical 387 Posts |
I am not arguing that some of their mics if not all can be rinsed this way. The link you provided was not specific to the 4066 or 4088 Here is the link to the 4088 manual. There in not one mention of water cleaning so I would check with DPA first. http://www.dpamicrophones.com/Images/DM01751.pdf
For the 4066 which is the OMNI version the link is bad and I have sent them an email. I think it is wise for the consumer to follow the instructions so as not to void any warranties. IF DPA gives someone with the 4088/4066 the green light to rinse in water and let dry, that is great! If they do not put in the manual maybe not ALL their elements are the same. Even the manufacturer I mentioned earlier said nothing beats DPA. However MOST of us, on the sound systems we use, will notice a performance difference. The DPA is consider the best but maybe we do not need the best in all situations. We need reliable. Like buying a fine German auto vs. a Honda. Both gets you from point A to B and one might be content with the performance of the car costing $30G less. And Honda's seem to go forever.... From one Frequency chart it would appear the DPA will have a greater bass response which means it would pick up deeper tones in the voice and give a richer sound. However if your voice is not deep, the drop off point may not have a great effect. I doubt most are sweating up a storm during their show, under super hot lights, and if we are talking male magicians, not wearing heavy make up. And I would say most of us do not even own a water tank. So how sweaty and dirty the mic gets is how well you take care of it. The sweat stopper could be added to any mic and that would help stop sweat migrating down the shaft. The DPA ones would probably fit most headset wires or one could find some sort of tubing that would fit the headset you have. You would cut a piece off and then split it to fit over. IT is basically a drip edge. Obviously, based on the comments, the DPA can hold up to getting wet and will perform well when drying out. The question I think was there any others that do this? From my brief research I would say NO. Most say they are RESISTANT to sweat.(even DPA does not claim in its materials it is WATER PROOF. The use the word RESISTANT. There are AEROBICS mics that are water and sweat proof but they are usually bulky and have the mic in front of the mouth. |
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TheAmbitiousCard Eternal Order Northern California 13425 Posts |
In my post I wrote DHP for some reason but I meant DPA.
I have no idea what I was thinking.
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Dan McLean Jr aka, Magic Roadie Special user Toronto, Canada 804 Posts |
I'll no longer participate in this thread. I'm not sorry that I presented what I believe to be facts, but I AM sorry that I sometimes wrote defensively, and in hindsight, inappropriately. I'll continue to answer the already numerous PM's on the topic of the thread.
Dan McLean Jr
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mghia Veteran user Kymystical 387 Posts |
Dan, no one was fighting you on it. I was interestested in the water cleaning, went to the site and only reported what I found. The link I gave did not have it in there.
I emailed DPA and they stated Hey Mark Yes, we do recommend distilled water for the cleaning of all of our miniature mics. I'm not sure why that’s not in the user manual; I will have to look into it. Best regards, Shane Beeson DPA Microphones, Inc. 2432 Main Street, Suite 200 I just did not want people thinking it was true for all theirs if it was not in the manual I downloaded. The 4066 does state the cleaning method. The answer from DPA makes the case closed. You sound offended and of course no one is forcing you to post. That is your choice as it as always will be. WE do appreciate your posts but that does not mean others will not have their own opinions. Anyway, this is not a DPA thread we shall move on yes? |
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mghia Veteran user Kymystical 387 Posts |
SO what is the thoughts on headest that fold down? That is the ear pieces retract inward for travel as in the Provider Series. http://www.providerseries.com/Provider%20Series/PSM1%20.html
And do you guys like a coating/pads on the ear piece or does that just make it to bulky? I think I saw a post a while back that someone did not like a Countyman design where the boom can pan up and down. They said that Countryman corrected the problem. So why was it a problem? Is not as stable when the boom can pan up and down? |
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silverking Inner circle 4574 Posts |
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of course no one is forcing you to post. Were you really responding to Dan McLean, one of the top wireless mic techs ANYWHERE, when you typed this sentence? We're ALL supremely lucky Dan posts here, and offers his advice as generously and openly as he does. Just my opinion, but I'd tend on the "listen" side of the equation when Dan offers up information............and I certainly wouldn't suggest to Dan that "no one is forcing you to post".........mainly because "NO", no one is forcing him to post......he does so freely and to help, and is under no obligation to do so. Without Dan's posts, this particular forum would contain a lot more misinformation and disinformation regarding wireless mics than it currently does. Suggesting in THIS FORUM that Dan's posts are anything but pure gold and welcomed with open arms borders on shameful. |
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g0thike Special user 722 Posts |
Mghia & everyone,
The problem with the Countryman microphone is the ball joint, if you adjust it the "natural" way you would adjust a microphone, it will break. Once it is broken in that manner Countrymen will not replace the unit. Your screwed. I have spoken to many sound techs and all of them have said negative remarks about the Countrymen. But if you take really good care of it, it should last. I also heard Countryman's customer service is awful. Personally I use a DPA 4088F, I have shorted the cable, they fixed it for $60.00 bucks, I messed up the element, they replaced the unit with a new warranty. This article sold me: http://svconline.com/mag/avinstall_dpa_microphones/ Also their Press Section http://www.dpamicrophones.com/ To answer the original questions, I move so much during my stage show I need two ears, plus DPA mics sound better, and they have a great customer service. Yet if you don't move that much and are in a budget get a Countryman. The "buzz" on the Countrymen mics on the MagicCafe was created because some people in this forum sell Countrymen mics. G0THIKE P.S. Dan is the Man when it comes to audio, I am smart enough to take his audio advice as FACT. |
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mghia Veteran user Kymystical 387 Posts |
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On 2008-01-16 21:50, silverking wrote: As I stated we all appreciate Dan's comments on this forum. Maybe I made a poor choice of words and not harsh like that. Basically it is up to him to be generous this his insights. Quote:
We're ALL supremely lucky Dan posts here, and offers his advice as generously and openly as he does. I agree. He is a good guy. Quote:
Without Dan's posts, this particular forum would contain a lot more misinformation and disinformation regarding wireless mics than it currently does. I agree, so when I saw something I thought was misinformation I posted and gave a credible link right from DPAs web. And if you read again, I did not say Dan was wrong, I said it was not in the manual and one should check with DPA FIRST since they are the ones who create each mic element. I could only go by what was on their site. And I hope you noted, that as SOON as I found out from DPA what was OK I posted it. So to set the record straight, if Dan chooses to particpate in this thread his comments are welcomed and I can not force him to post if he does not want to. |
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petermagic New user 11 Posts |
This post in in defense of my good friend Dan McLean. If you will check his bio you will note that he is a "Wireless and Live Audio Specialist". This is not his hobby - this is his CAREER. Magic is his hobby.
Throughout his association with a North American Leader in full service entertainment technology, he has worked with and supplied to, among other: Marilyn Manson, Billy Idol, Good Charlotte, Anne Murray, The Much Music Video Awards, CTV Network and Billy Graham. If he says a mic/system/speaker/amp etc. is good (or bad) then it comes from EXPERIENCE. Experience with thousands of pieces of equipment and thousands of clients in thousands of venues. Rarely do we as performers get the opportunity to chat with an EXPERT in related fields so freely. I urge you all not mess it up. |
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todd75 Inner circle 1277 Posts |
At one time I loved the Countryman series but was turned on to a new mic. put out by http://www.avlex.com
It is a over one ear mic. and the sound quality is soooo much better than a countryman. They are also about $100.00 cheaper. I am not knocking countryman at all! They just have a very low pickup range. EX; the sound is not very loud! When you go to www.av;ex.com click on the MIPRO logo. FYI- they come with several connectors so you don't have to have a mipro belt-pack. They work with sure and many others as well. |
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TheAmbitiousCard Eternal Order Northern California 13425 Posts |
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On 2008-03-04 15:38, todd75 wrote: ?????????????????????? What exactly do you mean by "soooo" much better. I find this hard to believe as an accurate statement. Please elborate what "soooo" means.
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