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motivationalmagic
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We stayed in a hotel last week with our five doves, for five days. Geez, the doves and rabbit made such a mess. We didn't want to get kicked out, and we had to keep hushing the doves so they'd stop making such a raquet with all of the typical cooing.

Any experience in traveling with doves, and what to do about hotel rooms, other than bringing along a big cage (which is a hassle). I remember seeing somewhere that one of the dove videos had suggestions on constructing a portable cage for situations like this. Any experience with this?
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Motel 6.

They are pet friendly. Less hassle.
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Many hotels are animal friendly and will allow you keep your animals with you if explain you are a magician. Others offer a special area in the hotel to house your friends during your stay.

Amos Levkovitch explains on his video how to convert the hotel bathroom into a small aviary for the birds. You can also construction a small cage out of chicken wire than you fold flat. It opens to a cage and you place another piece of wire on top. The mess will still be there though. I personally just prefer to bring a cage with me.
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Motel 6 ugggghhhhhh.
Call the motels-hotels in the area you are going to
and find the pet friendly ones. Even in chains some hotels
will allow pets and some won't. I've had major agents/promoters
miss on this one. Do it yourself. Or get a camper/winnebago for the pets.
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Greetings Motivationalmagic;
I remember back in the days when the wife and I used to tour,(God that makes me feel old now.lol) We used to open a dresser drawer and line it thick with newspaper, then close the drawer leaving about 1 inch open so they could get air.

I would follow others advice above about bringing a cage and seeking out pet friendly hotels, but just in case you run into a situation where you are not able to carry in a cage, a dresser drawer may be your ticket.
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"Amos Levkovitch explains on his video how to convert the hotel bathroom into a small aviary for the birds. You can also construction a small cage out of chicken wire than you fold flat. It opens to a cage and you place another piece of wire on top. The mess will still be there though. I personally just prefer to bring a cage with me."

Can you imagine the look on the cleaning ladie's (or man's) face when she walks into your bathroom and it's a jungle. LOL. That would be priceless.

I agree. Check into a pet-friendly hotel, but make sure you tell them they are caged. Some may not even charge you as much as dogs, cats ,etc. I don't use doves anymore because of the hassle.

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I find that most of the "no pets" rules typically intend to prevent damage from dogs and cats eating and messing the place into oblivion.

Most hotels I've contacted regarding a small bird in cage could care less provided it doesn't disturb other guests.

Call. Ask.

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Caged birds are not a real problem. Keeping them in the bathroom with the light OFF solves most of the problems. Putting a towel over the cage to make it dark helps too.

I never recommend keeping live doves in a storage area at a theater, theme park or hotel. Many have rat and mouse problems and those will kill doves.

Mine travel in a (please don't tell the doves) a cat carrier that is essentially solid wall anyway. There is plenty of ventilation but seeing inside takes effort. Things do not spill from the cage as long as it is upright.

Good luck!

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If you convert the bathroom into an aviary, you still need to do a certain amount of clean up each day to remove the droppings. Amos shows how to block out the light from any windows. Doves will go to sleep in the dark or at least become less active. It's a good idea to tell the housekeeping staff if you have done this so there are no surprises. Besides, if they open the door unawares, the doves are very likely to fly out into the main room which could create a larger mess than you started with.

The portable fold down cage is demonstrated on Tony Clark's unmasked II video. It is cheap and inexpensive.
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I have used the fold down cage and still have one. The problem with them for me is that they simply are not road worthy. For local shows and back home is fine but don't go out on the road for the week. They either break or lose their shape.

My actual favorite for local work is a homemade one that fits under the top shelf of my tables. It is made of 1/2"x1" welded wire and fastened with cagebuilders' clips. The perch is only about 2" off the floor. But even that helps keep tails clean.

That is one item to learn: NEVER use newspaper in the bottom of a dove cage unless stained tails don't matter. Lucy and I have a roll of butcher paper that has come in very handy. It has another problem however. It will not absorb liquids. For many years I used brown grocery sacks but those are rare now. There is always a partial roll of paper towels in my gear. Guess why?

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I used to smuggle my doves and duck in 5 star hotels. I keep them in the bathroom. Yes, I have to clean up the next day.
Nowadays, I don't do doves anymore but use parrots. They are more like kids and I look for an area in the hotel where I can keep (not smuggle) them. They are noisy when hungry.
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Most hotels are animal friendly if you explain you are a magician. We travel with six dogs and we have never had a problem.
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I bring dogs, cats, snakes, and birds into the nicest hotels in the country. If I can hide these critters onstage, surely, I can hide them as I enter a hotel. I use a collapsible carrier that fits in my suitcase. I got mine at the dollar store, but it is similar to one of these:

http://www.jcwhitney.com/autoparts/ItemB......00418945

This one is at Target and even cheaper in cost:
http://www.target.com/Standard-Cat-Carri......-9495031

Just put a carrier in your luggage and set it up when you get to the room. The critters, doves in your case, can go in "special safe places" until you are checked in. Like Bob Sanders says, darkness will keep them quiet.

Doves enjoy balancing from the shower rod with the appropriate papers spread under them and they love warm baths in the sink. I have not ever been caught with critters and I have spent a whole lot of time in hotels with mine. If I have to leave them in my room for a short while, I put them in their carrier and place the carrier in a darkened bathroom. Then I turn on the Nature Channel to make any "critter noise" seem normal.

Be bold, think like a magician, and have a good story line in case you do get caught!
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We also use a solid walled small dog carrier that has been converted with perches and water and food dishes. As Bob pointed out, this cuts down on any messes left.

The rabbits also each travel in their own small dog carrier. They are allowed to run around the room for short periods of time during our stay. A quick check for "presents" and there's very little mess.

We also try to only travel with female doves and this seems to keep the noise level down as well.

Rob
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Try one of these....6 drawers, lightweight, cleans up fast. I even use it back stage. I don't like going from a pet carrier directly to a body loads.
http://www.dennisalm.com/dove-hotel.jpg
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Hang the "do not disturb" sign on your door when you leave to discourage the housekeepers, too.
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Thank you everyone for all of these fabulous ideas! Yet another reason why I love the Magic Café so very much!
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I thought I would bring this topic back to life as I am spending a couple weeks on the road this summer and my bunny is coming along. I phoned a hotel that I wanted to stay at that has a pet policy of charging $10.00 a night. I emailed the general manager and asked if they could wave the majority of the fee as I would be there 5 nights.
This is the reply I got :" Thanks for dropping me a line…unfortunately I do not change the charges based on the type of pet. It is the same for snakes, pot belly pigs, hamsters, dogs, cats, and now the first rabbit. We sometimes have the rooms out of order for 2 days after the guest and pet have checked out due to the deep cleaning that takes place. Sorry I cannot do anything except offer you the same as my other pet friendly guests."

Out of order for 2 days? What will they have to paint the room because a rabbit was in there? I figure I would ask for the discount as I would be spending $700 with them. For not working with me on $50 they lost $700.
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Hi Ryan - its a nice point you brought up, however, I can understand where the General Manager is coming from. Its the deep cleaning part. My wife is highly allergic to dog hairs, cat hairs, and fur. It causes her breathing problems, and then her eyes itch and swell. Even AFTER the pet is gone. Any hairs cause issue with her. When our friends that have pets come to our house (without their pets), my wife still knows that they have a pet because her eyes start to itch, and she can't breathe. Its the hairs left behind that cause the reaction. So, in a motel room, if there are animals hairs left behind and the next guest is highly allergic to those type of things, it can cause problems, and a lawsuit to the company, so they probably have to charge for an extra deep cleaning after the pet is gone. This is why they like to know if you have a pet or not, to protect themselves. Sneaking a pet in can be done, however, if they find out, and something happens, they will come back to you, and you probably don't want that hassle. You paying that extra fee is like an insurance for yourself relieving you of any damage done, so if the hotel DID know about the animal, and they didn't clean properly, then its their fault, not yours....

I know if I and my wife went to a room, and suddenly she was having an asthma attack, and find out there was a dog on the bed that wasn't cleaned properly or dog hairs all over the carpet, she or I wouldn't be too happy about that. Its not a life-threatening thing for her, but it can be for some people...My animals stay in their own house out in the backyard for that very reason. *smile* My kids seem to have the same allergies as my wife when it comes to cats and dogs too...

Just my 2 cents on that...

Better safe than sorry *smile*

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