|
|
Go to page 1~2 [Next] | ||||||||||
MagicianDM Loyal user 213 Posts |
Hello,
I'm not new to magic, but I have a problem which is really disappointing me. My hands are often sweaty for some reason, so the cards get bent. I opened a new deck, played with it for 2 minutes, and 3 cards got bent. Now I'm REALLY disappointed with the Bicycles I bought from MJM, too. Their quality is BAD. Now, maybe that is why the cards are bending? Because I only had cards bending when I first started using Bicycles, and that was because of my grip, but they don't now. And for the last week, they have been bending a lot. P.S. The MJM Bicycle Decks have always been good except my last order. And Jeff, you had a nasty virus on your forums.
The ultimate, most visual and practical ambitious card routine finisher - HERE!
|
|||||||||
marty.sasaki Inner circle 1117 Posts |
If the cards get bent, just bend them back. Magicians put bends into cards all of the time and then take them out later. It's really easy to bend cards.
After you bend them back, you might try putting them into a card press or a card clip to let them dry before using them again. As to the quality of Bicycles, it appears that the quality varies all over the place. Maybe contact MJM and see if they will replace the cards. You might try different cards, maybe something from Ellusionist (yeah, I know) or maybe Tally-Ho's? Good luck.
Marty Sasaki
Arlington, Massachusetts, USA Standard disclaimer: I'm just a hobbyist who enjoys occasionally mystifying friends and family, so my opinions should be viewed with this in mind. |
|||||||||
Father Photius Grammar Host El Paso, TX (Formerly Amarillo) 17161 Posts |
Try a little rosin or powder on your hands, even a little antiperspirant to cut down the sweatiness. Rosin bags are generally available at sporting good stores or bowling pro shops. A little corn starch works about as good as powder.
"Now here's the man with the 25 cent hands, that two bit magician..."
|
|||||||||
Stanyon Inner circle Landrum, S.C. by way of Chicago 3433 Posts |
'Nother option would be, when thru playing with your "toys", split the deck at 26 and Faro half face up into half face down and replace into the card box for the night.
FWIW Cheers!
Stanyon
aka Steve Taylor "Every move a move!" "If you've enjoyed my performance half as much as I've enjoyed performing for you, then you've enjoyed it twice as much as me!" |
|||||||||
MagicianDM Loyal user 213 Posts |
Thanks. I think the problem was I wasn't very careful with them, and I had 52 cards in a box instead of 56, and I had them inside a card guard. So I guess that's why...and the quality wasn't too good, but I am alright.
The ultimate, most visual and practical ambitious card routine finisher - HERE!
|
|||||||||
Joker63 New user 48 Posts |
I have a Porper card guard which solved the problem for me, mostly. I spent four weeks in sunny North Queensland, Townsville, the wettest place in Australia (claims the highest rainfall anyway). The hot, humid environment played havoc with my cards.
Clean hands before practice is a habit I took out of Giobbi's Card College. This tends to extend the life of my decks. Interesting comment regarding 52, not 56, cards in the box. I have got into the habit of removing all extras except one Joker. The others usually get used to practice routines requiring the card to be torn. |
|||||||||
Andy the cardician Inner circle A street named after my dad 3362 Posts |
Another vote for the porper card guard.
Cards never lie
|
|||||||||
vpatanio Special user 515 Posts |
Are they bending from the moisture on your hands? If so then go with Photius' advice. You can also try washing your hands thoroughly before you use the cards, this may help wash away much of the oil and sweat on your hands, ultimately drying them.
-Vinny |
|||||||||
Loopback Veteran user Lincoln, Nebraska 359 Posts |
I also have a Porper and have been practicing the Larry Jennings snap double for the last two weeks. When I am done using the cards they have very noticeable bends. I store them in my Porper Clip and they look great the next day.
|
|||||||||
marty.sasaki Inner circle 1117 Posts |
I know it is off topic, but are the Porper, and other, card clips made for 56 cards or for 52? I have a clip (no name, don't know the name) that was a little loose with 52 regular Bicycles, and "just right" with the Ellusionists cards. I just checked with an old deck of Tahoes and it is really loose with them.
Marty Sasaki
Arlington, Massachusetts, USA Standard disclaimer: I'm just a hobbyist who enjoys occasionally mystifying friends and family, so my opinions should be viewed with this in mind. |
|||||||||
clarissa35f Veteran user 363 Posts |
Quote:
On 2008-01-31 00:23, Stanyon wrote: I am also Noticing a bend after working on the Jennings Snap Double... sounds Like an excellent Idea...
“Amateurs practice until they get it right.
Professionals practice until they can’t get it wrong.” <Anonymous> "There is no such thing as magic, there is no other way that could have been done" <Whit Haydn> |
|||||||||
BCS Inner circle 1083 Posts |
This also may be off the subject, but I find the cards seem to work better after they warm up from being in my pocket.
|
|||||||||
molsen Special user Copenhagen 552 Posts |
BCS, funny enough it is perfectly on topic. Cards are affected by both humidity and temperature.
A playing card is composed of two thin layers of paper (front and back) glued onto a cardboard base layer that adds thickness. Cards warp (bend) either because we apply force (physically bend them) or due to inner tension in the card. Inner tension can arise when one side of the card is more moist and warmer than the other. If cards are a bit warped after a practice session, it helps to set the cards in a FU-FD-FU-FD-FU-FD... (face up-face down) arrangement when putting them in the cardcase while they are still warm and damp. Putting a book on top and leaving them for the day after usually improves the deck a lot. As already mentioned, the fastest way to achieve FU-FD-FU-FD... is to cut at 26 cards, flip one of the packets and faro. Before I got my faro down, I did it by hand, it doesn't take long. Finally, if you keep your deck in your back pocket, they might develop a click. You will know what this means if it happens to you. The reason for a click deck is that the center portion is stretched slightly or that the perimeter of the cards has shrunk a bit. Michael |
|||||||||
BCS Inner circle 1083 Posts |
Michael,
Thanks for the card facts… being on the portly side, I find that if I put my cards in my back pocket they tend to curve. That’s why I stick with my suit coat pocket. Thanks, Bruce |
|||||||||
clarissa35f Veteran user 363 Posts |
Any recourse if you get a Click Deck? I know how annoying this can be . but I have never put it in my back pocket. Usually jacket pocket, Purse... or something that does not conform to body shape.
“Amateurs practice until they get it right.
Professionals practice until they can’t get it wrong.” <Anonymous> "There is no such thing as magic, there is no other way that could have been done" <Whit Haydn> |
|||||||||
Tina I Regular user Oslo/ Norway 194 Posts |
I wonder if Bicycle has changed the property of the glue fairly recently because I seem to notice that the cards bends more due to moisture than they used to. It can be both good and bad though since it can actually be utilized in magic. Try this: Have a spec put their hand on a selected card for a minute and then have them replacing it in the deck and shuffle it. You'll be able to effortlessly cut to their card because you will clearly see the slight warp in their card
As for helping with the problem when practicing I alternate between FU and FD. After all, when working to get a move down it usually doesn't matter if the deck faces up or down. |
|||||||||
molsen Special user Copenhagen 552 Posts |
There was a thread on rescuing decks that click a year or two ago, http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewt......&forum=2 . One suggestion I remember was sticking the deck in the fridge for a few days, preferably in a cardclip. Personally I just toss them in my used deck pile and use them to practice tearing cards, mercury folding and other stuff that is rough on the cards.
Tina, if it helps to have the cards FU and FD while practicing it cold sound like one side is more sensitive than the other. This could be due to small variations during production. I don't know if USPCC has changed anything with regards to the glue, but there was a thread recently about them cutting the cards differently, so it is possible. Michael |
|||||||||
chias Regular user 144 Posts |
For me sticking cards in the fridge isn't a permanent thing, after the cards are back to room temperature the cards are screwed again.
|
|||||||||
Stanyon Inner circle Landrum, S.C. by way of Chicago 3433 Posts |
Sticking the deck in the refrigerator is not where they should be. You want the deck to be in the freezer portion of your refrigerator...better if it is a frost free model. The cold air has less moisture and therefore drys out the card stock more efficiently.
FWIW Cheers!
Stanyon
aka Steve Taylor "Every move a move!" "If you've enjoyed my performance half as much as I've enjoyed performing for you, then you've enjoyed it twice as much as me!" |
|||||||||
michaelmagicart Loyal user 254 Posts |
If you feel the decks are defective in anyway you should address the problem to:
Our Guarantee The United States Playing Card Company guarantees the quality of all of its playing card brands. If a manufacturing defect is found in a deck of our Bicycle®, Bee®, Aviator®, Hoyle®, Maverick®, Tally-Ho®, Squeezers®, or Congress® playing cards that makes it unusable for normal game play, and it is returned before it has been extensively used, we will be glad to replace it. Please include a brief note indicating which kind of deck the defective card(s) came from. Return the Ace of Spades, if present, and the defective card(s) to: Guarantee The United States Playing Card Company 4590 Beech St. Cincinnati, OH 45212 Contact Info: In order to continue our efficiency, please email questions, concerns, comments, and requests to this address: consumerrelations@usplayingcard.com There is also a possibilty that you are running into counterfit decks made in China. I found a number of these at a flea market in Florida for $1.00 a deck.. The card case was printed exactly like Bee Diamond Back right down to the "Made in U.S." and "Cambric Finish Cards". They weren't even close to the real Bee Decks. The card cases were made from recyled paper the cards are also. The cards are 2 layer only, not 3 layer. |
|||||||||
The Magic Cafe Forum Index » » New to magic? » » Cards bending (0 Likes) | ||||||||||
Go to page 1~2 [Next] |
[ Top of Page ] |
All content & postings Copyright © 2001-2024 Steve Brooks. All Rights Reserved. This page was created in 0.03 seconds requiring 5 database queries. |
The views and comments expressed on The Magic Café are not necessarily those of The Magic Café, Steve Brooks, or Steve Brooks Magic. > Privacy Statement < |