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I mean, I know what a cup of tea is. I know the fancy porcelain cups from England, but to call out a cup as a "tea cup" always amuses me. They look pretty much like a coffee cup to me. Now the Japanese tea cups, those look like tea cups . . .
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Another magician who used coffee cups (and the mentioned Charlier Miller routine) was Michael Skinner. He performed his version of the Miller routine on the Tonight Show. Tony Curtis was the guest host. Joe Flynn and Jack Lemmon were also on the show and at the table when Michael performed.
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Last time I saw Bruce Cervon work the Close-Up gallery at the Magic Castle he did a fantastic routine with coffee mugs and balls.
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Good one Bill...it's getting stormy in mine. My chop cup is wore out...
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Didn't Lance Burton do one on a special? He used a mouse as a final?

The main thing I remember about it was his wand spin was amazing. Real magic.

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On 2008-02-04 13:26, doug brewer wrote:
I mean, I know what a cup of tea is. I know the fancy porcelain cups from England, but to call out a cup as a "tea cup" always amuses me. They look pretty much like a coffee cup to me. Now the Japanese tea cups, those look like tea cups . . .


You are very easily amused.

Webster's defines a teacup as a small cup usually with a handle used with a saucer for hot beverages.

A coffee cup is defined as a cup from which coffee is drunk. This type of definition is self-referential and probably not really well thought out.

The definition of a tea cup would really be dependent on context. For example, in the case of Bob Read and certain others, their performances are in England, where tea is more often the beverage of choice than coffee.

Try googling teacup or tea cup, and you may gain a bit more understanding of the way the word(s) is/are used in the trade.
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Bill, relax, buddy. It was said that Bob Read specifically used tea cups. I just found this amusing - I don't care if he used coffee or tea cups or milk jugs. He was a great performer and I don't think it really mattered what container he used.
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Well, I think tea cups, for the most part, have enough physical differences from a coffee mug that someone might prefer one over the other. I've found tea cups to be shorter and wider than most coffee mugs (in general), so they resemble the kind of shape of most round c&b cups which make the final load look quite large in comparison to the cup. Most coffee cups are straighter sided and taller and don't have this quality. Cappuccino cups/mugs are somewhere in between. So...I can see where someone might prefer a specific type of cup over the other.
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On 2008-02-06 15:04, doug brewer wrote:
Bill, relax, buddy. It was said that Bob Read specifically used tea cups. I just found this amusing - I don't care if he used coffee or tea cups or milk jugs. He was a great performer and I don't think it really mattered what container he used.


Yes. I said it. So did Bob Read when he described his routine in Genii Magazine. You took two words in my statement out of context and made a big deal out of it.

I don't recall our ever being "buddies."
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I don't understand. If you use teacups the hedgehogs won't stick.
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On 2008-02-04 13:26, doug brewer wrote:
I mean, I know what a cup of tea is. I know the fancy porcelain cups from England, but to call out a cup as a "tea cup" always amuses me. They look pretty much like a coffee cup to me. Now the Japanese tea cups, those look like tea cups . . .


Tea cups are generally a bit smaller than coffee cups.
Tea cups are usually decorated more formally than coffee cups.
You could always drink tea from your coffee mug, or coffee from the 'tea cup' but that won't change a thing on the way the world calls em. Uhm.. in addition to that, asian tea cups (those made out of shell or thin porcelain) are slightly more fragile than coffee mugs. The quality is very good though, but don't try pounding it on the table. lol

If you are to perform it on a corporate setting, and coffee mugs are the items which look least suspicious to be magically disturbed, try setting one up if you want it to be a chop cup combo. Or if it's a regular CB routine, just be careful with the handles, or 'mug ears', or whatever it is called.
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I just purchased a Thomas Wayne Coffee Chop Cup from a fellow Café member. It looks complete innocent and I suppose you could even drink from it then dry it before using it for a routine.

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I wouldn't do it, though. I don't know what kind of stuff is inside the cup. I do like the fact that it does not have that silly price sticker or "Made in Taiwan" label on the bottom. That always struck me as a "tell."
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Bill,

You're probably right...it does have a slight discolouration on the inside. Is it some kind of resin to cover the gimmick?. Anyways, thanks for the warning.

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I'm not privy to all of Thomas Wayne's tricks; however, I am reasonably sure that would be a good assumption. The problem with Neo magnets is that anything that is close to the heat necessary to fire pottery would demagnetize the neodymium. So resin would probably be the best choice. There are many of these, though -- polyester, epoxy, etc.
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Hello All,

I had a conversation with Thomas regarding drinking from the cup. The answer was, do not do it. There is a potential for bacteria to build up in microscopic crevices that may cause health problems. Cleaning in hot water is not an option due to the effect of elevated temperatures on the gaff.

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Thanks for this important safety information! I'm going go with the notion of if you're not being chased don't run. I was just thinking that it might add an impromptu look to the effect. I can do the same thing with a bit of acting. Thanks for your info and help with this.

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The first time I tried to record my routine, I tried to do it in my kitchen and use mugs out of my cupboards. Needless to say, when doing your routine with mugs, you need to be significantly more gentle with them. I broke three mugs trying to do a routine I normally do with copper cups. So practice and be careful.
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Scotty York has a one-cup routine with a coffee mug on the first vol. of his bar magic videos. It uses
novelty final loads you probably won't use
The best thing is if you learn this, forget about the novelty loads and the coffee cup, you will have a ulility chop cup routine that doesn't need a chop cup. Any cup, any time, anywhere.
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Any suggestions on a final load for a one cup coffee chop cup routine?
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