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magician8
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I've practiced this techniques for a couple days now and I'd like you to please comment on it, t still needs a lot of practicinf and the setup is awful, please tell me what you guys think and I appreciate your advice,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPwtRGu-ehY


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Hi magician8,

You more or less said it yourself in my opinion. Awful setup and you can see the "gap" in the deck when dealing. Don't think I used the correct word there, hm, you can see a "line" in the front is more what I was looking for. I would like to see the video with a better framerate to comment on the take. The take looked great from here but I don't know if the videorate helped you or not.

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Kim,
the setup would me more covered in a game as I'd do it in squaring the pack to deal to player 1, thus the setup would only be seen from my back. About the "line" in the front, I find it absolutely necessary to have no gap in the side. thanks for your comment. Would you like a sideview?


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My center deal is INVISIBLE in a game.

That's because I don't do it.

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Magician8, honestly, I would like to see it in a proper camera. Very difficult to give you any comments otherwise, and remember, I am a student of the center deal myself right now. Well, if you know it is invisible in a game, then please, show us what that would look like.

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As far as the type of center deal it is, it is one of the best I've ever seen ... that type being, to quote your original post,

"practiced this techniques for a couple days now"

As far as center deals that have been practiced MORE than a couple of days, well, it's not so good.

Ditto on the camera comments.

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To be honest, the tempo and the take didn't look bad at all. About on par with many of the middle deal demos that I have seen on YouTube. The get ready and the break in the front of the deck aren't game-worthy (I don't think that any center deal is), but I think that 8 knows that.

And what's a proper camera? One that you can point and shoot and take pictures/video clips with? The camera is fine. Fine enough, at least, to show the world the high and low points of his work.

He's got a knack for handling cards, it seems. Perhaps, in time, he will grow tired of practicing magicians' moves and focus on other things.

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I meant technique, but I didn't quite get your post.
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My previous post was meant to dixon's post
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Here's a side view of, who I believe is, the same guy dealing from the middle.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFgRM-0Hrnk&feature=related

Just keep practicing.

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I don't know really but I would say, that it looks like you did not start right and when you do not start right in anything, things tend to get worse and that is what happend there, so it seemed to me.
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Doesn't look too bad to me at all...
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Tommy, would you mind to tell me what you tink was bad and please give me some advice.
everybody thanks for the comments.




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On 2008-02-03 18:52, Mr. Z wrote:
Doesn't look too bad to me at all...


Right???

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Yeah I mean the pitch and take are good, the rhythm's right on, looks pretty good to me.

I've yet to see a center deal where the break didn't show from the front.
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On 2008-02-03 17:53, magician8 wrote:
My previous post was meant to dixon's post


I'm sorry. I guess I was a bit too flippant. What I meant was this: How good would you expect virtually any move to look, let alone a false deal and, even more, let alone a center deal, after, as you wrote, "a couple days" of practice. It's a self-defeating proposition.

Best wishes for you and your sleight of hand. You seem to set your goals high, which is a worthy trait.

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I made another video, this time from a slightly different angle and yes, the setup is even more awful than before, but I'm working on it. The break still shows from the front but I don't think that is very important yet. I slowed the deal down a little so you could get a better view.
If you have any new comments please tell me and I appreciate everyones advice,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_CoHU_KGVt8


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Magician8 your take is excellent but the break that's seen is horrible. Why? The fake must always look like the real in some way or the other. I'm re-learning the middle deal as we speak just like it was taught to Dai Vernon by Al Kennedy and to me this is the correct way. Why? Because there should be no break seen because there is none seen when you deal seconds or bottoms, so neither should there be any break seen when dealing middles.

The front of the deck break that Mr. Z spoke of is the same problem I'm having as well. We must eliminate all defects in our deal in order for it to look real. Your break and get ready is not natural and even though it will work and get the money for a round or two, don't press your luck because you might get hurt. Stop thinking that the solution to these problems will come in a couple of days or weeks because most times it won't; some take years to master (Note; only because we have no one to teach us the correct way).

Dai Vernon had no break and his deal looked absolutely natural. When my or your deal looks like his or better, that's when we will receive our gold medal of honor and not until then. Remember, even though it's possible, don't think that you'll master everything because you won't. Rome wasn't built in a day (perfection takes time).

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Doc, what about your man's deal? That thing seemed pretty nice from what I recall.
One time, when I was young, I botched a sleight so bad, Vernon, Marlo & Miller rolled over in their graves. But I didn't see Elmsley, probably because he was behind the others.
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Doc, most of the time the solution to my problems IS practice and if there's nobody to teach me the correct way I teach myself, I'll upload a new video when I feeel I've improved.




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