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Anyone got this?

http://www.timdavidmagic.com/unmake.html

Review please.
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Interesting, can that method, the one demo, not some half as good alteration be done without the hoodie?
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I wondered the same thing.

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Let me be the victims.. ill buy it now ill review it soon
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Hmph.... how to review this... ok first of all, you might knw that I'm not a coin guy, so I'm probably not the right person to doing the review,
this is my PERSONAL feelings about the tricks.

first, yes you need the hoodie, he gave you another method without the hoodie, but its just not as clean as the one with the hoodie.
is it new methods? no, I don't think so its an old method that he put it in his hoodie, ireally don't want to say more about this since its will easily tip the methods and it wont be fair for him.

the vid is good in the explanation part.
am I gonna use it?no, its not my style.
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Sounds neat but not as practical for a professional performer.
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Thanks mind games, that's what I figured. might be good if you wear that to perform in ( un-professional?). maybe for those that do it casually and wear hoodies alot.

I wish this was a part of somthing larger , like a book or compilation dvd as it sounds interesting.
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Is this more or less the idea behind Revolution? That's what I thought when I saw the hoodie on the preview...

I usually perform revolution while wearing a sweatshirt since its a lot more natural looking.
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On 2008-02-04 12:58, Joshua Barrett wrote:
Thanks mind games, that's what I figured. might be good if you wear that to perform in ( un-professional?). maybe for those that do it casually and wear hoodies alot.

I wish this was a part of something larger , like a book or compilation dvd as it sounds interesting.


I thought that this WAS part of something larger!! Didn't this use to be called "Son of workeroo" or something like that. LOL!

Seriously though, I picked up unmake and I believe that I'll just stick with the afore mentioned workeroo that I also have. At least I don't have to wear a Hoodie!

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Great trick.
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Mentioning the, "Hoodie" is such an injustice to the creator. It obviously implies the method and his creativity is breached. He deserves, and has earned the respect of no hints whatsoever. Steve
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On 2008-03-05 02:25, Steve Landavazo wrote:
Mentioning the, "Hoodie" is such an injustice to the creator. It obviously implies the method and his creativity is breached. He deserves, and has earned the respect of no hints whatsoever. Steve


And if the buyer never ever wear a "Hoddie" (don't have any...sorry), how does he feels after buying the trick ?
I think, those king of thing even has to be written in the ad already.

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Respectfully, since he gave another method without the hoodie the seller shouldn't have to reveal this! Steve
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On 2008-03-05 11:56, Steve Landavazo wrote:
Respectfully, since he gave another method without the hoodie the seller shouldn't have to reveal this! Steve


Clothing restrictions -- especially when they're as specific as a hoodie -- should ALWAYS be mentioned.

I'm guessing if the non-hoodie method looked as good he would have shown it in the demo.
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This topic really bothers me and let me tell you why.

I know so many magicians on this board that work their tail off to put out a trick, invest huge amounts of dollars, time and heart and in just a blink of an eye, somebody purchases it and reveals and tips the method. The purchaser automatically assumes that since he now owns the trick that gives him license for all of the world to know how it is done. This is wrong, and if I were the creator I would be ****ed! You are paying for the secret!

Because this trick can be done without a hoodie in my opinion it is not up to the consumer to decide that the secret should be published. The creator obviously put out another method for those that don't have a hoodie as a consideration, not a blatant attempt to deceive the customer. Do you think the late Bobo, Tarbell, Hugard and countless others now need this printed on their publication covers, "some of these tricks require long sleeves?" I mean, come on.

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I don't think its a case of long sleeves. The "other method is a direct rip off" and thye main method being sold ususe a hoodie. I do not wear them and this is information I could have used before I bought this!! For example I bout interlaced and richard told me up frotn I woudl need to tailor a set of pants. This does not tip the method just makes me aware so I think this the hoody should have been stated before hand!!¬
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On 2008-03-05 13:28, Steve Landavazo wrote:

Because this trick can be done without a hoodie in my opinion it is not up to the consumer to decide that the secret should be published. The creator obviously put out another method for those that don't have a hoodie as a consideration, not a blatant attempt to deceive the customer. Do you think the late Bobo, Tarbell, Hugard and countless others now need this printed on their publication covers, "some of these tricks require long sleeves?" I mean, come on.

Steve


And the winner for worst analogy of the year goes to...

Listen, if the creator of this had a way to produce the same effect WITHOUT the hoodie, that would have been the method he released and the hoodie would have been the bonus method.

And I don't believe for a second you're smart enough to log on to the internet but too dumb to see a difference between an effect that requires a very specific, limited item of clothing like a hoodie, and one that just requires sleeves. Or the difference between a one-trick instant download and a book like Modern Coin Magic with 116 sleights and 236 tricks explained.
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I was going to purchase this trick, but now since people say you need a hoodie.. forget it!
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Wow MagicSquared! Why the need to turn this into name calling. Why so angry?
Peace! Steve out!
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I'm not angry (I'm pretty blissful actually), I'm poking fun at you for your poorly thought out logic. But if it's easier to talk about my non-existent anger than to defend your position that a creator can sell something that requires you to wear something that will more often not be:

- weather inappropriate
- occasion inappropriate
- style inappropriate

without letting you know what that apparel is, then don't let me get in your way. Have at it. I'm so angry! Grrrrrrrr.
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