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INMOTION
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Hello to all... I did research the other discussions on cards across, however I found there to be a lot of different oppinions and often the thread got off track.
What I am looking for is the "BEST NO PALM / STAGE" version of cards across. I have been working with palming cards for two years now, however I do not have confindence in palming cards. I have know doubt the best cards across routines involve palming, as I have several DVD's with methods involving palming. I want to put this effect into a comedy stage setting, where I can focus on the presentation, and not worry about palming cards. Would prefer using regular cards, however not against gaffed cards. Could someone please lead me in the right direction. Thanks!
warren
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If you look at the preview for cards across by the worlds greatest magicians micheal Ammar has a nice version with envolopes that I think is none palming.
you could also get bob whites lecture notes called its a matter of style for another none palming method.
Kex
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The Card Expert Entertains by Fitzkee also has one with envelopes... very basic. Also some other similar ideas in there with cards and envelopes if I recall correctly.
INMOTION
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I have the Michael Ammar version, and similar to palming, I wasn't real keen on the switch that was done in Ammar's version...
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Although there's palming, Shimshi's the way to follow!!
INMOTION
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Maybe I should rephrase my question... Looking for a no palm version of cards across that I could perform in a stand up situation, not a table. Can be regular or jumbo cards. I recently purchased Double Crossed by Daryl/Fooler Doolers. It is a no palm using 20 cards, spectators each think of a card from the second set of 10 cards, and the two thought of cards travel across. Very nice and easy cards across effect, are there any others?
warren
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You could try brainless travellers by james brown or the thought of cards across project by christopher williams which all provide impromptu versions of the double crossed effect by daryl.
MrBob102
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I have a version I like and use. It's from Bruce Kalver and he calls it "Cards Across". No palming required. 12 cards in each stack, 3 cards selected at random from the audience, cards appear in the opposite stack in side the envelope. http://www.tophatprod.com/magic
INMOTION
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MrBob102,
Thanks to a kind member here on the forum, I came across the Zens' Cards & Envelope routine, which can be easily adapted to jumbo cards. Based on your desciption of the Bruce Kalver routine, they sound almost identical, except the Zen's Cards Across uses 15 cards... Are there differences in the effects?
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Here is a direct link to Bruce's effect. Hope it helps.

https://manatee.site-secure.net/tophatpr......833.html

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Alan Munro
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I like the McCombical Cards Across. It uses two packets of cards with contrasting backs, so you can tell that the cards have moved, easily.
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If you aren't into palming, gaffs are the way to go if you want a clean effect. Here are a few that might work for you:

Simon Aronson's Red Sea Passover (marketed item)
Dan Harlan's Red Rover (marketed item)
Brother John Hammon's Thought Cards Across (Book: The Secrets of Brother John Hammon)
David Devant's The Triangle (Book: Our Magic)
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Mick Ayres
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"Zen's Ultimate Cards Across" can be found in J.G. Thompson's "MY BEST". It has helped me pay plenty of bills. In my opinion, Zen's method seriously trumps ANYTHING on L&L's WGM Cards Across DVD. No sleight of hand, no palming, no gaffs, lots of audience participation and it can be done just as easily with jumbo cards for stage performances if you wish.

A spectator gets three other spectators to select cards and then return them to the packet. These turn out to be the three cards that travel across the room. As far as the audience is concerned, you NEVER touch the cards. How much more could anyone want? I close my shows with this frequently.

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Glenn Morphew
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On Bob Sheets' "Hang em High" dvd you not only learn a great rope through body effect, he teaches a very nice version of cards across that meets your criteria. A big bonus is you get to see Bob perform these pieces on stage in front of a live audience.
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Andrew H.
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Zen Cards across...Uses JUMBO cards and has a killer ending. My personal favorit.
Paul
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Also the book "Across The Void" details many methods for the effects (and different presentations) and explains why 15 cards were used (which is not necessary these days and just lengthens the trick). Anybody performing or wishing to perform a version of this effect will find the book worthwhile reading.

Coincidentaly, I do have a few copies left Smile

Paul.
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The one I've always used is Mark Leveridge's 1-2-3 Jumbo Cards Across - it's simple in working, sleight-free and gaffed. It but uses envelopes, Jumbo cards and has lots of audience participation.
http://www.markleveridge.co.uk/shopbask/products/jca.html
It plays great on stage and works for both kids and adults.
Uli Weigel
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"Across The Void" by Paul Hallas is indeed an excellent resource if you're interested in the Cards Across effect.
Jess Cone
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Hi Inmotion, See if you can track down Larry Jenning's handling of this plot in which the cards to travel are added very cleverly to the other packet in the action of the spectators counting the cards into the performers hand. I've been using this method for many years, always plays well and is performed standing. It can be done on a stage for larger groups though I'd recommend using the larger Anglo Playing cards put out by El Duco in this setting. Perhaps someone here in the Café can guide you to the Jenning's source of this move/routine. Jess
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Hi Inmotion, See if you can track down Larry Jenning's handling of this plot in which the cards to travel are added very cleverly to the other packet in the action of the spectators counting the cards into the performers hand. I've been using this method for many years, always plays well and is performed standing. It can be done on a stage for larger groups though I'd recommend using the larger Anglo Playing cards put out by El Duco in this setting. Perhaps someone here in the Café can guide you to the Jenning's source of this move/routine. Jess
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