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Kozmo
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I like the dan tong chop cup routine the best...its plot is completely different than any other out there AND the loads are very deceiving...

you can get it on his dvd finally or in the first issue of reel magic quarterly

another great sorce for chop cup routines is the L and L release on chop cup...several great routines on that

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George Schindler has a nice routine on his dvd "Entertainment First". You cannot go wrong watching Brad Burt's, Don Alan's, WGM's contributions to this trick, great variety and inspiration. Larry White had a great routine in a Linking Ring with his version using a snow white theme ending with an apple.

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Keith,
there is a little booklet called "The How-to book of the chop cup" by Merlyn T Shute.
It's a Morrisey product I think, it is a really good starting point and it is very reasonably priced.

All the best with your routine.

Tom
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I am loving Jenning's routine that is found on Stevens' Chop Cup DVD.

I agree with comment above... learn a routine, one routine for the chop cup. Start there. I have had a chop cup for a long time, and really wasn't using it.

Learning a routine has given me purpose behind using the cup, etc. I know it sounds like common sense, and it probably is just that. Some have said I lack some in that department (grin).

But really, it was a great way for me to fall in love with the chop cup.

John
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Thanks RevJohn, I totally agree with what you are saying. I received a Ron Bauer's Basic C&Bs Technique manuel along with my Mini-Jester cups from RNT, and it is the one simple routine that I have put a lot of focus into. There are other routines that I am working on as well, but those are from DVDs where I cannot hear the presentation or Patter, and therefore I have less interest.

I several DVD's and books on C&Bs, Chop Cup, and 3-shell game, which is a lot of material to go over, It's overwhelming amount of material, that I found one very simple routine that I have been working with. It's a start and a good start to bigger things. The only bad thing about this specific routine is that it required six matching working balls, and crochet balls can be expensive. I already had an inexpensive $40 mini-C&B with 1/2 red crochet balls, but I was having a hard time finding matching 1/2 rec crochet balls that I decided to just go ahead and buy another $40 mini-C&B. Now I have 8 matching red 1/2 crochet working balls and two sets of matching mini-brass cups; the matching set of cups could eventually be used in a longer routine where I might need to secretly switch cups.

Right now the hardest thing for me to learn, I am not really trying, is the wand twirl that Micheal Ammar does in his C&B routine. I have both his DVD and book, and I guess I am not that interested in it yet, so I will put that one thing off for now. The good news is that many performers are not using wands, especially in chop cup routines, therefore I can work without it.

RevJohn is right, find one simple routine, learn it, learn to enjoy it, and perform it. Start small and take your time working your way up to bigger things.

Have fun folks
Keith
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I agree with Koz (tedb) about the Dan Tong it’s fast easy and a good finish, and it seems to me like there is really only one sleigh a fake put, unless you what to count the normal handling. Owln_1
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On 2008-02-15 15:12, Nedim wrote:
I think you must check out Paul Daniels's chop cup routine. Its really wonderfull.
magicially yours,


I just stumbled across a video of Paul Daniel's routine and it changed my mind about learning a chop cup routine Smile
Harry Murphy
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Paul Daniels' routine is actually the Ken Brooke Chop Cup routine. It is published and still available. Ken taught it to Paul. It is also very close to the old Don Allen routine that used to come packaged with the Chop cup. Tommy Cooper was taught the same routine and sort of does it (have to say sort of because Tommy put his own comedic spin to everything he performed!). Tommy’s version of the Ken Brooke routine is posted on Youtube somewhere.
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Paul Daniel's routine which he claims wasn't based on Ken's (and I believe him) is exceptional.
however, it's diffcult not to let it influence your own performance unless you have strong routine that you perform the same every time you do it.
Keith Mitchell
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Is there ever any progress when people use other's routines, and only use the same routine over and over again?

I am new at all this and right now I am learning two routines, and that is ok for a beginner. It's my goal to learn more and more routines, hopefully it will influence me to discover my own routine(s).

Only flaw that I have at the moment, a big flaw, is my Patter or Presentation. A few people have been helping out, but I have not found my voice yet. Look at Gazzo, it's obvious that he has found his voice.

Life goes on
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Don Alan also has his routine on Stevens Magic DVD...really nice routine...I like to use an idea I seen from Ammar....on Masters of Illusion special(cannot find footage)...using a lemon as final load, I wonder what can be "in" that lemon
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I encourage you to check out Lance Pierce's "World Famous Bowl Routine." It starts with the vanish of a signed borrowed bill and ends with a lemon as the final load. Guess what's found in the lemon when it's cut open...
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Really good way to introduce the lemon...aside from just bringing it out of your pocket....
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One book that I'd recommend, in addition to Bauer's write-up of the Don Alan routine, is "The How To Book of the Chop Cup" by Merlyn Shute. Here's a few pages of references for Chop Cup: http://magicref.tripod.com/magref/magchop.htm
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Madkiki,

I believe there is some confusion and will try to clear this up for you. I sounds like you have the 'Chop cup Cups and Balls' set. There is only one routine published for this set by John Mendoza. Yes, John Mendoza, the same her on the Café. It is published by Morrissey Products and is a printed manuscript or booklet, it now comes with his sequel included. It is a fantastic routine but does take some time to learn. This routine uses all 3 cups.

You can purchase it at http://www.stoners.com for $5.00.

Now the Chop cup is a larger cup, but has been made in small versions. It is a single cup that was made famous by 'Chop Chop' the entertainer. The Don Alan routine is fantastic, but Larry Jennings has also made a fine routine that was published in one of his books and Genii Magaizine some years ago. The only difference in the magazine routine is the production fo the cup to begin the routine.

Ken Brooke used this routine to make up his own and thus there are similar moves for each.

Hope this helps clear the confusion.
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Chop Chop was his nickname and his real name was Al Wheatley. He was a friend of Johnny Paul and wanted to do a one cup routine similar in feel to Johnny's routine. Thus the Chop Cup was born. There are routines that use a gimmicked cup in a similar fasion from before Chop Chop made his routine but Chop Chop and Don Allen really made that cup routine famous.
I think Al's original Bamboo Cup is in the museum website that belongs to Bill Palmer.
Later,
Mobius
Keith Mitchell
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Thanks wmhegbli for the tip, and yes that is what I was originally looking for. I just finish checking out the link you provided, but could not find the book you hand mentioned. They did have a C&Bs book, but I am not sure if that was the same book you mentioned, the web site was very vague about the book.

I did a search on John Mendoza's chop cup routine, and the best results was the WG Chop Cup DVD which I already have and I need to watch it again. It would be nice to have the book since I cannot hear what the DVD is saying; I am legally deaf.

Thanks for the help.
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I have an original bamboo chop cup made by Al Wheatley (Chop Chop). And, the Johnny Paul cups I market were spun by the son of the man that made the first metsl chop cups for Wheatley.
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Dave McFarland
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Madkiki,

you can find the "Mendoza Cups and Balls Routine" at Morrissey Magic:
http://www.morrisseymagic.com/morrissey_books4.htm
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