The Magic Café
Username:
Password:
[ Lost Password ]
  [ Forgot Username ]
The Magic Cafe Forum Index » » The side walk shuffle » » Best Rope Routine for the Street (0 Likes) Printer Friendly Version

 Go to page [Previous]  1~2
marty.sasaki
View Profile
Inner circle
1117 Posts

Profile of marty.sasaki
You can do the Mongolian Pop knot with 10 feet of rope, I probably use around 14 feet, but it isn't necessary. The really nice white rope is a little bit too expensive to use a lot of. I bought some cotton clothesline which works great.

But Frank is right 10 shows a day is a lot of rope. You could make up a bunch of rope ahead of time, but you have to ditch it. You really don't want folks discovering the method.

One nice thing about the routine though, is that it is reasonably long over 7 minutes, you could probably stretch it to 10 without it dragging. That's a nice length.

many rope routines result in cutting the rope shorter which require more rope and some point. I find that actually cutting the rope is more convincing than pretending to cut the rope.
Marty Sasaki
Arlington, Massachusetts, USA

Standard disclaimer: I'm just a hobbyist who enjoys occasionally mystifying friends and family, so my opinions should be viewed with this in mind.
TheAmbitiousCard
View Profile
Eternal Order
Northern California
13401 Posts

Profile of TheAmbitiousCard
I didn't think about that Marty. The ditching all of the rope that you just used/ruined. where would you put it? you could destroy the evidence and throw it away, I guess. I think it's pretty obvious you wouldn't be using this on the street for any length of time.


Prof. NM works great. uses 3 people, you can come up with some great lines. you can take your time, joke around. there's lots of room for joking around with it. it's a no-brainer. daryl's handling of the "count" is really great. the best I've seen. explains it on his rope routine.

Incidentally, for my pop knot type routine for my stand-up show I use about 9 feet of rope. I stretch the length between my arms (approx 6 feet), fold it in half and add that much more rope and snip. viola! about 9 feet. no measuring.
www.theambitiouscard.com Hand Crafted Magic
Trophy Husband, Father of the Year Candidate,
Chippendale's Dancer applicant, Unofficial World Record Holder.
FunTimeAl
View Profile
Special user
987 Posts

Profile of FunTimeAl
Bobby M got me to really think about rope on the street. I can't explain the reasoning behind it, but people tend to walk more during a rope routine than other effects.

I'm guessing it's either because most anyone's that's seen a magician has seen a rope routine...or, because rope just doesn't seem very magical in and of itself.

I "trimmed" back my rope routine to the bare essentials and even "halve" the routine when/if I need to.

Sometimes they're loving it...sometimes, I feel like it needs to move along.

It's probably all based on the performer. But, perhaps rope just doesn't keep people like other props inherently can.

I was watching Bobby last weekend at a festival. Next to me this guy was arguing with his whole family. "Wait a minute, we'll get some food in a moment. First I wanna see this guy get outta them chains".

Dunno if he woulda said the same thing had I been up there with my rope.

I'm NOT dogging rope. I use rope EVERY time I perform. I just think it needs to be quick, and full of amazement on the pitch, where attention spans are short and distraction is all around.

Just my thoughts. If ya don't agree, then you don't agree. I know Whit or Harry could keep them punters stopped in their tracks for and hour or more with rope. I can't though, that's all I'm sayin'.

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj193......4622.jpg
Wayne Whiting
View Profile
Regular user
181 Posts

Profile of Wayne Whiting
I also use the Mongolian Knot routine on the street and would agree with Marty and Jeff. As far as Whit making a comment here Frank, he has already done so in either his Street Magic book or his Mongolian Pop Knot treatise. He feels it is worth it. Again, as mentioned above, what ever fits your personality and what you can carry around.

If you are doing this routine 10 times a day and you make $30 hats (pretty conservative for some buskers), what's a few dollars for rope? I actually get two performances out of the rope length that Whit recommends. The Professor Nightmare part of the routine is a little tight, but still doable.
Genius is 1% inspiration and 99% perspiration. Thomas Edison

www.terrylagerold.com
TheAmbitiousCard
View Profile
Eternal Order
Northern California
13401 Posts

Profile of TheAmbitiousCard
Thanks for chiming in Wayne. Do you recall Whit's suggestion for how much rope?
I can't remember.
www.theambitiouscard.com Hand Crafted Magic
Trophy Husband, Father of the Year Candidate,
Chippendale's Dancer applicant, Unofficial World Record Holder.
Dave V
View Profile
Inner circle
Las Vegas, NV
4825 Posts

Profile of Dave V
I don't have the manuscript on hand, but I think he started with about 30 ft. He did use this on the street, but not for every performance. So, using Marty's measurements, you can get three performances out of each 30 foot piece before having to change up to something else.
No trees were killed in the making of this message, but a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced.
RWhit
View Profile
Regular user
151 Posts

Profile of RWhit
Sunny Holiday has the best street routine I have seen.

Richard
Wayne Whiting
View Profile
Regular user
181 Posts

Profile of Wayne Whiting
Frank,

Whit's recommendation is to start with the end of the rope touching the floor by your left foot. Raise your left hand towards the ceiling and extend your arm. Cut the rope about 6 inches beyond where it touches the floor by the right foot. Does that make any sense? LOL.

Anyway, I am six feet tall and for that height the length is 13.5 feet of rope. Again, I get two performances out of it. So, with Whit's recommendations you are looking at 13-14 feet of rope depending on your height.

Hope that helps.
Genius is 1% inspiration and 99% perspiration. Thomas Edison

www.terrylagerold.com
marty.sasaki
View Profile
Inner circle
1117 Posts

Profile of marty.sasaki
I haven't done it on the street, but I cut the rope so that it goes from the floor to my raised hand, back to the floor, plus a few feet. The length isn't at all critical, but it seems more impressive with longer rather than shorter rope. Part of that may be due to the differences between the rope during the PN phase are more visible with the longer lengths. I've actually gotten gasps when displaying the three different lengths.

I guess it makes sense to save the rope for other rope routines. The long length is probably the right length for a more traditional cut and restored routine and the medium length for ring on rope.

I use the rope to tie things up. No one asks me why the rope is chopped up into short lengths.
Marty Sasaki
Arlington, Massachusetts, USA

Standard disclaimer: I'm just a hobbyist who enjoys occasionally mystifying friends and family, so my opinions should be viewed with this in mind.
MrHyde
View Profile
Special user
810 Posts

Profile of MrHyde
Quote:
On 2008-04-25 08:40, Mark Raven wrote:
Look around for a Hunter's Puzzle Knot routine.

I think Tim Hyde has written up a good version.


Hi Mark

Belated thanks for the mention!

The Hunter Puzzle Knot is absolutely perfect for busking, it stops people dead in their tracks and you can easily build a laughing involved crowd from that one person. As anyone knows, stopping that first person is sometimes the hardest part of the gig.

I must admit that in the three years I busked full time (79-81) I didn't use this particular routine, I either did a Prof nightmare or C&R. I developed the Hunter routine later for roving (paid) performance at large scale events and then for trade shows. Similar situations but slightly different context. But if (or when) I hit the street again, this would be my opener.
newmage
View Profile
New user
West Coast
25 Posts

Profile of newmage
Mr Hyde, I agree, it's a terrific routine for building a crowd. Your routine is clever but I still can't get the one handed knot toss 100 %.
Danny Hustle
View Profile
Inner circle
Boston, MA USA
2393 Posts

Profile of Danny Hustle
I'm a BIG fan of Brother Paul's routine.
Image

"MT is one of the reasons we started this board! I’m so sick of posts being deleted without any reason given, and by unknown people at that." - Steve Brooks Sep 7, 2001 8:38pm
©1999-2014 Daniel Denney all rights reserved.
MrHyde
View Profile
Special user
810 Posts

Profile of MrHyde
Quote:
On 2008-06-16 19:10, newmage wrote:
but I still can't get the one handed knot toss 100 %.


LOL. I'll PM you.

With the normal start (2 handed) the trick is to get a bit of opposite sideways movement at each end. Then the ends will not hit each other as they pivot around.
With the one handed start, kind of swing the rope up into the horizontal
and then a slight backwards tug as you let go, duplicating the postion of the normal start.

have another look at the video clip you can see that sideways movement in both versions.

timothy
bropaul
View Profile
Loyal user
Florida
220 Posts

Profile of bropaul
Thanks Danny... I'm with you. I mean not because I wrote it up, I just don't like to burn off that much rope. I do have my original routine that I plucked parts out of Abbots Encyclopedia of Rope Tricks. It's 9 minutes with 6 feet of rope, ending with the Professors Nightmare. I love to do it, but I usually don't have the rope around to do it... I wrote it up in my 1998 lecture notes called Ground Zero 2.0. (Well before the 9/11 disaster). I'll put those notes back out some day, they were the best. It's go the Rice Bowl routine in it, but let's not get off the subject...

It seems today, magic rope is getting well... Let's just say poor quality. I pick up the 300' spools when I run across a store that has a good rope, but it seems that it's just poop.

That's where the Street Rope Routine came into being. I just works.

I used Whit's routine for a long time too, just because it's fun to do. It burns rope too, but those type of routines are really worth it. Rope parts everywhere and kids grab them up. Just remnants of a good time I figure.

But as Jimmy says, find something you like, put the time in, make it yours, claim your pitch and work it!

Bro. Paul West
Bro. Paul West

www.BrotherPaulMagic.com
Bill Palmer
View Profile
Eternal Order
Only Jonathan Townsend has more than
24263 Posts

Profile of Bill Palmer
The best rope to use for magician's rope, if you can find it, is white "rope sheathing." It used to be available for people who were in the maritime industry. Some of the yachting suppliers have it, so my source, who used to sell this stuff, tells me.

Two routines that I had a lot of success with on the path at Renaissance Festivals were Quad-Rope-Lets and Cords of Fantasia. Quad-Rope-Lets fools the gilpins whose kids know the Professor's Nightmaer. Cords of Fantasia can be used with audience volunteers and works nicely.
"The Swatter"

Founder of CODBAMMC

My Chickasaw name is "Throws Money at Cups."

www.cupsandballsmuseum.com
Dynamike
View Profile
Eternal Order
FullTimer
24107 Posts

Profile of Dynamike
Richard Sanders has a new rope DVD out. It is called "Fiber Optics Extended." It shows the same as the regular DVD plus more. I am pleased with it.
ed rhodes
View Profile
Inner circle
Rhode Island
2732 Posts

Profile of ed rhodes
Quote:
On 2008-07-12 23:26, bropaul wrote:
Thanks Danny... I'm with you. I mean not because I wrote it up, I just don't like to burn off that much rope. I do have my original routine that I plucked parts out of Abbots Encyclopedia of Rope Tricks. It's 9 minutes with 6 feet of rope, ending with the Professors Nightmare. I love to do it, but I usually don't have the rope around to do it... I wrote it up in my 1998 lecture notes called Ground Zero 2.0. (Well before the 9/11 disaster). I'll put those notes back out some day, they were the best. It's go the Rice Bowl routine in it, but let's not get off the subject...


There are people out there who might be surprised to discover that the term "Ground Zero" existed before 9/11. Just look at "Weird" Al Yankovich's "Christmas at Ground Zero!"

I like my rope routine, although it does end up cutting rope and I need to make about a dozen up at a time so I can re-use them.
"There's no time to lose," I heard her say.
"Catch your dreams before they slip away."
"Dying all the time, lose your dreams and you could lose your mind.
Ain't life unkind?"
Dynamike
View Profile
Eternal Order
FullTimer
24107 Posts

Profile of Dynamike
Jeff McBride has a DVD where you will be able to start off with Linking Rings. A rope can be added to the end of the Linking Ring rountine. Next, he switches to an effect with just the rope. It blends in nicely.
The Magic Cafe Forum Index » » The side walk shuffle » » Best Rope Routine for the Street (0 Likes)
 Go to page [Previous]  1~2
[ Top of Page ]
All content & postings Copyright © 2001-2020 Steve Brooks. All Rights Reserved.
This page was created in 0.17 seconds requiring 5 database queries.
The views and comments expressed on The Magic Café
are not necessarily those of The Magic Café, Steve Brooks, or Steve Brooks Magic.
> Privacy Statement <

ROTFL Billions and billions served! ROTFL