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Kimura
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That's a fair point. I haven't seen the original tapes, so I guess the DVD set has more value to me. I'm also still in the magician mind-set. You know, the one that makes a $200 book with only a small amount of interesting material an acceptable price.

Cheers.
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There's no reason to think they'll be any less than the VHS tapes were, in fact they could be a bit more with new material added.

Some information needs to be a bit painful in the pocketbook before it's made available.

For those who bought in to the VHS tapes, an opportunity to purchase the DVD with just the new material on it (by sending in a proof of purchase in the form of a piece of the original VHS cover) would be something I'd like to see mulled over.
I doubt the idea will have any traction with the projects principals, but somebody was bound to bring it up.
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It's gonna be expensive, I don't think there is any two ways about. But the thing is valueable. It's still one of the very best things out there in my opinion. I have it already so I can make a choice when I see how much it costs, but I'm expecting it to be pricey.
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Well you're also getting a VERY rare, hour-long special (of which this thread is titled) that showcases SF posing as both a dealer and a player in a casino setting demonstrating scams on blackjack, craps, slots, and poker in real time.

The new footage may easily be the best sleight of hand with cards ever put on film to date. Unless you've personally met and spent a good deal of time with SF, you've never seen this stuff before. I'd say only a half dozen or so of the moves on here appeared in Doc's private footage.

Add to that the convenience of the DVD format compared to having to rewind and fast forward old VHS tapes, and I think the set will be worth every penny.

Just my opinion!
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Not my place to discuss how much it'll cost, but I think most of you will find the eventual price tag very reasonable.
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Yeah I was only going by the original material, not even factoring in the new stuff.

You don't see the videos coming up for sale used very often. That tells me that most people who get it consider it a "keeper". There is a lot of stuff I would get rid of before I ever got rid of that set. Like I said, unless the price is absolutely absurd, I can't see myself not buying it. Hopefully he won't ding us TOO bad.

I'm sure they want to hit a price point that will appeal to the first time buyer and those that have held off waiting for the DVDs, as well as those that want to upgrade thier VHS copies, and even those that have already made their own DVD transfers. It's tricky.
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On 2008-10-10 20:52, Mr. Z wrote:


Just my opinion!

:)
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I've got a better idea. To get the right to purchase you ought to show to SF himself what you're able to do with a deck of cards. 150 bucks if you're a great deuce dealer, 125 if you're a nice cellar dealer. $ 1,000 for other guys.

20% cut off for king stackers.

Just kidding (albeit...).
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On 2008-10-10 21:35, AMcD wrote:
I've got a better idea. To get the right to purchase you ought to show to SF himself what you're able to do with a deck of cards. 150 bucks if you're a great deuce dealer, 125 if you're a nice cellar dealer. $ 1,000 for other guys.

20% cut off for king stackers.

Just kidding (albeit...).


Good luck getting a loan given the current economic situation.

;)
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That's why I said it was a joke Smile.
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150 bucks if you're a great deuce dealer....


You're picking on me. Smile

:lol:
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Put Mr. Z's footages with Sal's Cheating at Poker DVD and there you have it. I hope that I'm wrong but hey I'm just speculating. They'll be a few mucks, peeks and black jack moves you've haven't seen but it will definitely be nice.

Take care,

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On 2008-10-11 04:23, Unknown419 wrote:
Put Mr. Z's footages with Sal's Cheating at Poker DVD and there you have it.



Haha, you will be a little more than surprised. Pleasantly in fact. Smile
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In my opinion Z is sometimes even better than Steve-but the Steve we're talking about is the one of the GPS,and that series was published 20 years ago.Even if Steve was already a master,his practicing make him better as everyone does.So,I think it would be very interesting watching him with his improved skills.
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It's good and it is bad. We see it, that's good. The suckers see it, that is bad...will it curtail the annual crop of suckers? Dilemma!
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The main Z's flaw is his stack speed. Too slow. Much too slow. He needs to improve his speed a *** lot.
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Probably the best way to cover a "slow" speed when stacking a deck is to NOT look at the cards or your hands.

If you casually talk, while you stack, the slow speed will go unnoticed.

My best tip if to practice stacking while watching TV. That way you can do it all my touch Smile

That was how I practiced when I was in my late teens and twenties Smile

The original "Star Trek" series and "Mission Impossible" was popular back then Smile
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AMcD and Expertmagician giving tips to Z?

You're wandering out of your pay grade boys.
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Silverking,

Do you really believe I think Z is too... SLOW?

:)
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To me,Z has not only a better stack than Steve(always THAT Steve in the GPS) but also a better second and a great clip palm.All this,in my humble opinion.
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