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Hi Guys

Here's a question for you. If you had to put together 2 strong routines consisting of 3-4 effects that could only be self working, what would you include.

As an example, Overkill by Paul Harris followed by Gemini Twins by Karl Fulves followed by Poker Face by Al Baker.

Looking forward to your thoughts
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You have heard about Card College Light ? (a book )


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Hi Frans

Yes I have heard of Card College Light. However that is not my question. I am asking if you the individual had to put together a routine of your own, what would that be. That's why I gave an example of effects and by who. I am not asking where I can read a routine in a book. (Even though that is a great book and has lots of great routines in it)

The purpose of this question was to get a bit of a conversation going and to share ideas and thoughts.
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Lazy mans card trick HARRY LORRAINE
Destiny Phil Goldstein
Whispering Queen
X Marks the Spot Nick Trost

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Untouched
Gemini Twins
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Eugene Burger's handling of the Triple Prediction plot is self working and pretty incredible.

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Good choice Tricky trav on the Harry Lorraine Effect, He allways puts together some great stuff.

Also I hear that there is a good DVD on making miricles out of self workers by Matthew J Dowden called 1 deck, 14 tricks, 24 hours. Has anybody seen it ?
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On 2008-03-04 13:25, truesoldier wrote:
I hear that there is a good DVD on making miricles out of self workers by Matthew J Dowden called 1 deck, 14 tricks, 24 hours. Has anybody seen it ?


There is a review of it at http://www.online-visions.com/reviews/0709dowden.html.
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Thanks Hushai
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Hey Guys

I notice not many posts on this thread. Does this mean that most of you don't like to do a whole routine consisting of only self workers, or does it mean that you have such good routines that you dare not share them LOL.
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If someone gives you a scruffy old deck of cards its always good to know a few self workers.
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I don't know that it's such a hot idea. If you have too many routines in a set that have the same dynamic, things can get stale -- it doesn't matter if it's 4 ace tricks, pick-a-card tricks, magician-in-trouble tricks, or self-workers. A lot of the great self-worker effects are often procedure-heavy... too many tricks like that in a row and you're asking for trouble.
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These are two routines of self-workers that are based on similar stack arrangements:

Paul Wilson's "Absolute Zero" (a few little fixes to return stack order)
Pit Hartling's "Chaos"
Juan Tamariz's "Neither Blind Nor Stupid"
Any version of Paul Curry's "Out Of This World"

Or:

Al Koran's "Lazy Man's Card Trick"
Benjamin Earl's "Ramjollock" (a few little fixes to return stack order)
Sal Piacente's version of the "Marlo Opener"
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Hi Erlandish

I totally agree with you regarding the fact that a lot of self working effects are very procedure heavy and to much of this is not good. However as I am sure that you will aagree there are also a lot of good self workers out there that are good while not overly procedure heavy. I guess that the whole point of this post, to see what you could put together in order to make a 3-4 effect routine that would stand up in a pro environment.

I have recently become quite fasinated with self working and semi automatic card effects. I really enjoy the clever thinking behind the strong ones. Also I have found through reading that there a lots of effects that are really good that no one else (or at least not many) people are doing. I myself understand that by adding a few sleights to some of these effects can make them even better, I do this quite a lot and it really goes a long way towards making the effects even stronger.
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On 2008-03-06 16:31, truesoldier wrote:
However as I am sure that you will aagree there are also a lot of good self workers out there that are good while not overly procedure heavy.


Actually, I'm pretty ignorant, so I'm having a hard time remembering the short & sweet self-workers... Going through Card College Lite, Fulves's More Self-Workers, and my Royal Road, I'm having trouble finding anything in there that's short&sweet and measures up to the likes of Shufflebored, Gemini Twins, PIS Triumph, Untouched, etc. I can think of loads of great tricks to complement the above, but I'm having trouble thinking of any that are both self-working and at the same level of quality...

But, like I said, I'm pretty ignorant. Hopefully someone can cure me?
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Bannon's Power of Poker is pretty light on procedure, and it's a self worker. Not an instantaneous "wham" kind of effect but not too laborious either. Guess it depends on where you put the breakpoint for "heavy."

I think Degrees of Freedom would qualify as "procedure heavy" though...
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For some other good selfworking effects try Deuces Wild on page 15 of Self Working Card Tricks, also on page 92 try Jumping Jocker. (They are very simple, but with the right presntation and patter can really be entertaining.

Also try Flighty Aces by Lu-Brent on page 89 of Scane on Card Tricks.

You can sometimes make other effects self working, an example would be Stigmata, all you need is a Cut Deeper Force, (for the rest you will need to watch the DVD)

I guess it just means reading through lots of books and trying out effects untill you find ones that suit your style.
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I'm sorry -- that link I gave above to Visions Online doesn't seem to work for me, now that I try it. I don't know why. I know that the review I was referring to was there a few days ago when I looked at it, in the trick review section of Visions Online. You can look for it there if you're interested. Sorry about the glitch.
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No problem Hushai, I had the same problem.

Thank you for coming back and letting me know, it's much appreciated
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BTW, the link to the review of Matthew J. Dowden's "1 Deck 14 Tricks 24 Hours Volumes 1 and 2" DVDs isn't working because of the period at the end. Here's the functioning link:

http://www.online-visions.com/reviews/0709dowden.html
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Thanks Scott
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