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myoungbauer![]() New user Minneapolis, Minnesota 91 Posts ![]() |
Used by Tina Lenert to animate her coat? I've seen others use it, including a clown in Cirque du Soleil, and always wondered if this technique had a name.
Thanks matthew |
Circus Bambouk![]() Loyal user Tempe, AZ 256 Posts ![]() |
Nope. As far as I know, no specific name, other than 'personification' or 'puppetry'.
In my experience, the only thing linking all the performers of this act is that they all claim to be its originator. In the spirit of this month of positive posting, I will admit that I am 100% sure that each performer discovered this technique of puppetry on their own, in a vacuum. Tina Lenert, Kenny Raskin, Slava, and others. Hope that helps. -Brian |
Fredrick![]() Loyal user Seattle 247 Posts ![]() |
I would willing to guess that this technique goes back for a long, long time. Mime skills have been with us since the beginning of time.
I wouldn't be surprised if a caveperson didn't make a bear skin come alive one night around the fire.
"Try to find the humanity in the magic and maybe you'll come up with something of your own. It's the humanity that gets you there, not techniques." Michael Moschen on Creativity
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myoungbauer![]() New user Minneapolis, Minnesota 91 Posts ![]() |
Great to know. Sounds like lots of people have used it; in the Genii issue featuring her, Tina remembers seeing a stripper do it as well.
Thanks for the help guys. Matthew |
Man Ray![]() New user 17 Posts ![]() |
Tina lifted the technique/act from Kenny Raskin, and there was quite a hullabaloo about it.
Intellectual property is something that doesn't seem to exist in the magical world. A real shame. Most magicians just walk around taking other peoples work without a second thought. Cheap. Without consequences, I suppose it will all just continue as such. Sad. |
Dan Bernier![]() Inner circle Canada 2298 Posts ![]() |
As it has for over a hundred years.
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Pat Perry![]() New user 53 Posts ![]() |
I think different about "taking" things: Fortunately very often the original has invested much more time and energy then a rip off. So you feel the difference as an audience. And as a "taker" you always have to explain yourself.
On the other hand it could be so easy: Why not get in contact with a person and find an agreement. Very often the answer will be: "use it but create your own approach". Or you pay something for the idea and everybody is happy. But you have to accept a "no" too. That's the way it should be. |
harris![]() Inner circle Harris Deutsch 8695 Posts ![]() |
Red Skelton also did a version...(if my Monday memory is working)
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Pop Haydn![]() Inner circle Los Angeles 3448 Posts ![]() |
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mtpascoe![]() Inner circle 1932 Posts ![]() |
I noticed that this bit is being used in the new movie called "The Artist". Can't wait to see the movie. It's all done in silent. Looks like they took Mel Brooks idea. However, they are doing it all the way. They are using black and white and creating a setting that seems like it could have taken place during the silent movie era. The main female character walks up to a coat rack and inserts her arm into and does the Tina Lenert/Kenny Raskin bit.
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Dr_J_Ayala![]() Inner circle In search of Vlad Dracul and his 2169 Posts ![]() |
Thanks for posting that link Pop - I always enjoyed watching Kenny work his brand of magic. This was superb!
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jugglestruck![]() Inner circle Wales 1038 Posts ![]() |
This was on the 'The Magicians' last week on the BBC. I love this kind of stuff, it looks so simple but to pull it off is so hard.
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madelaine![]() New user 91 Posts ![]() |
See here also:- http://www.silentclown.com/donimo-gallery.htm
The name of this effect is 'one arm thru one jacket/coat/cardigan.....' |
Pop Haydn![]() Inner circle Los Angeles 3448 Posts ![]() |
Kenny Raskin claims to have originated the bit in 1981:
"Signature piece of clown Kenny Raskin Created June, 1981 Filmed in Central Park, NYC June 2001." ~ youtube video Anyone have information on an earlier version? |
Chatterbox41![]() Veteran user Atlanta, Georgia 346 Posts ![]() |
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On Apr 18, 2016, Pop Haydn wrote: Very cool Pop! I had never seen this bit. Thanks for sharing... Gary |
P.Jane![]() New user 50 Posts ![]() |
Very nice!
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