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Blackwood Special user Mind-Play 528 Posts |
Bev's version is the more British "scissors-paper-stone" – you'd have to have BIG stones to do it naked. And everyone would be able to tell!
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kriskraze Special user 620 Posts |
It's a shame he didn't go the whole hog and use the most British: "Paper, Scissors, Stone"
As a note of interest, and supporting the British name. A stone generally small enough to throw (and be wrapped in paper or blunted by scissors). A rock is larger is only likely to be thrown by a volcano or a very large man. |
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muse Special user Scotland 925 Posts |
And is there a link to the naked (or otherwise) bev-versioned paper/scissors/stone?
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entity Inner circle Canada 5060 Posts |
I've now seen Bev's version, and it is quite different than the one that I put out.
I've not seen Slim's take on it, but I suspect that it was inspired by my routine, since he came out with it very shortly after receiving mine. My routine was inspired by a principle first noticed by Martin Gardiner, later explored by Bob Neale and Simon Aronson, and recently by Patrick Redford. - entity
email: tomebaxter@icloud.com
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Jim-Callahan V.I.P. 5018 Posts |
E,
Let me say in truth that Slims take on this is light years beyond what I bought from you. But your was well worth my cash. (I think others feel the same) In fact Slim's take on this idea was so good he almost was on PHENOMENON and ended up an alternate becouse of his work on this. Dave/Slim talks to Martin on a regular basis and from what I understand has been extremely supportive of Slims work. However I would like to say I thought yours was very good and clever. But I would use what Dave did for NBC if I had to seal the deal. Jim
“I can make Satan’s devils dance like fine gentlemen across the stage of reality”.
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entity Inner circle Canada 5060 Posts |
My point was that his versions seems to have been inspired by mine. Just as mine was inspired by others.
That's all. He became very excited when he received my routine, and soon after came out with his version of the RPS thing. - entity
email: tomebaxter@icloud.com
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Jim-Callahan V.I.P. 5018 Posts |
I understand and can agree E.
No doubt without your work and the guys before you Slims presentation would not be what it is. -Jim H.O.A-X
“I can make Satan’s devils dance like fine gentlemen across the stage of reality”.
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Slim King Eternal Order Orlando 18012 Posts |
I was totally ignorant of the Paradoxical Methodology of RPS prior to reading RPS-Entity.
Once I read it my mind jumped on the go-cart track and didn't stop for a couple of days. I called Martin and purchased all of the other material that Entity had credited as inspiring him. My angle was for over the phone or radio work. RPS-Entity contained less than a page of material in that direction as I remember. So I set out in my particular BENT I worked out a method to do it for "Many" listeners at once over the Radio and telephone or internet. I also jacked up the impossibility element by "NOT" knowing the number of times the volunteer had even touched the items. I went a step further by utilizing the method behind my routine "The Blessing" in the second round of play. The third round is something never released before as far as I know. All in All, ROSHAMBO is meant for remote presentations, although you could do it in a room of NBC executives if you don't mind hearing them shout the F word Lots of fun. Please correct me if I'm wrong, but RPS-Entity is more of a "Live" in person hands on type of routine. To me, it was WELL WORTH THE MONEY!!!!!!!
THE MAN THE SKEPTICS REFUSE TO TEST FOR ONE MILLION DOLLARS.. The Worlds Foremost Authority on Houdini's Life after Death.....
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entity Inner circle Canada 5060 Posts |
RPS Entity was primarily a routine for strolling mentalism, but included applications for performing it over the phone and on the internet. It also mentioned a way of performing the sequences without apparently knowing how many times they switched the items.
If credit is to go to anyone for the basic principle upon which all the routines are based, it goes to Martin Gardiner, who is the ultra-genius of all these sorts of things. We all walk in his shadow. - entity
email: tomebaxter@icloud.com
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Patrick Redford Inner circle Michigan 1751 Posts |
Since I was kindly mentioned here....
It's true I do have work with both the principle behind the Rock Paper Scissors effect (Martin Gardner/Bob Neale/Simon Aaronson/Karl Fulves) being the original minds behind what I worked with and had fun helping both Slim and Entity credit their routines with the right resources. Both routines are nice pieces of kit. The work I have published I can't go into specifically what or where it is but those who've read it enjoy it. Some folks have witnessed my RPS routine over the phone which is unlike anything else that is currently in print by others as it uses absolutely no props, is impromptu, and may be done over the phone. Where? Well it's circulated privately but will appear in the upcoming book Heptagon that has been due out to follow Triangle. I'm very eager to find out what folks think of the new project once it hits the market as a lot of work has gone into this very extensive project. Keep an eye out for the future. Cheers, Patrick |
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Seth speaks Inner circle New Mexico 1249 Posts |
Just got this, Entity, and it is really wonderful! Thanks for this (and your Card Merely Thought Of, as well). This is simple, but progressively more baffling -- the kind of impromptu mentalism that I love.
Seth |
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rowdymagi5 Inner circle Virginia 3616 Posts |
Has "Slim" released his effect?
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bond19 Inner circle Blackpool, England 1338 Posts |
Fantastic routine...
I have great fun with this as the the effect unfolds... I love the way is becomes even more impossible.. Great structure Entity |
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LLL Inner circle 1574 Posts |
Bought this yesterday, lovely routine, shall be using it next weekend.
Andy
The basic tool for the manipulation of reality is the manipulation of words. If you can control the meaning of words, you can control the people who must use the words.
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lunatik Inner circle 3222 Posts |
Quote: On 2008-06-06 05:03, rowdymagi5 wrote:
"Don't let your Dreams become Fantasies"
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lunatik Inner circle 3222 Posts |
Quote: On 2008-06-20 00:25, lunatik wrote:
"Don't let your Dreams become Fantasies"
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Jim-Callahan V.I.P. 5018 Posts |
Not yet I am still filming parts of it.
-jim
“I can make Satan’s devils dance like fine gentlemen across the stage of reality”.
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fvdbeek Elite user 490 Posts |
Cal me stupid, but what is this routine really about ? I know the game that it is based upon, but waht is the effect. How many people are involved ? I find the description kind of vague.
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entity Inner circle Canada 5060 Posts |
I trust that you are familiar with the game of Rock, Paper and Scissors. Rock breaks Scissors, Scissors cuts Paper, Paper covers Rock. Also known around the world as Roshambo, as noted in my manuscript. It even gives you a link to the World Roshambo website.
RPS Entity is a 3 phase routine for the strolling mentalist, with applications for performing the effect over the telephone or on the internet. In one variation, you take 3 totally unprepared business cards (no marks nail nicks, etc. needed) and on one card your write "Rock", and the second card "Paper" and on the third card "Scissors". The business cards are laid in a row on the table. You turn your back, while the participants mix the cards. When they are satisfied, you have them take a $20. bill (your bet) and cover just one of the business cards, hiding it and rendering it "out of play". They then place their right hand over one of the remaining cards, their left hand over the other remaining card. Once all is hidden, you turn around and ask them a short series of humorous, non-sequitor questions (these have nothing to do with the cards or the routine or their choices in moving the cards) and then you are able to immediately tell the participant which hand covers the winning "object". This is repeated twice more with progressively impossible conditions, the outcome of the final game having been predicted in writing ahead of time. Hope that helps. - entity
email: tomebaxter@icloud.com
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entity Inner circle Canada 5060 Posts |
For a measely $15. Canadian dollars, RPS Entity is worth taking a small "leap of faith". You can order it directly from me, too.
- entity
email: tomebaxter@icloud.com
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