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BIlly James
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This clip should be of some help. Pay particular attention at section 1:05...

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=0fSnTVJxgxI

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On 2008-03-16 21:10, BIlly James wrote:
This clip should be of some help. Pay particular attention at section 1:05...

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=0fSnTVJxgxI

;)


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On 2008-03-16 14:41, Jaz wrote:
Since the whole table was heckling you may not be able to ease the heckling.

"Excuse me but you've succeeded in making it impossible for me to continue. Have a nice evening."
Leave.

There are a few different types of heckling, all handled differently.
Type 'hecklers' in the Café search.



Agree,if they don't have education with you,show YOU your education to the group,show you are a professional...if you don't note, at the end they feel bad about ruining your job,
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One of the best things about walk around magic is you can WALK to the next table whenever you want.
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This is why I am always packing - I just let them know I am going to show them a rare treat: The bullet to the head -
Once word gets around the heckling stops.

Seriously - the hecklars are no more invasive than the magic was. Why do we blame the hecklers? Just walk on . . .
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I wouldn't have known how to deal with hecklers had I not joined this site. Now, I break off from the trick, demand a tip, then staple a business card to their forehead whilst shouting one of my competitors names at them. It does seem to shut them up.
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Birds of a feather, flock together. Better to have one table full of jerks, than have them spread out throughout the other tables. Feel fortunate only one table was painful. One bad apple at each table could have spoiled the entire evening....

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Hecklers can be a tough group to deal with. Friends out with friends and a little bit of liquor makes for a bad night. If your effects aren't flawless, then they will see right through them. Also, the hardest thing for a crowd to get over is someone they feel is being fake with them. If they threw you a curveball, and you just stayed on your practiced presentation, they will eat into it. I'm not saying morally degrade them, but if you want to try to fight with them, prepare to throw fire back. I'm not of the school to try and pick battles with spectators, but there are books that address the issue of comebacks that might come in handy.

Here's how I have handled a table in the past. I was doing my ACR and the guy kept saying things like, "You are doing something to get it to the top. You're just to fast, but I know what you are doing." Not heckling persay until he tried to take the deck from me. I had some magicians wax on my cardbox so I stole it off while he was trying to explain to his friends that I was sneaking the card out of the deck and to the top. I controlled the card to the bottom and did a bottom palm and gave him the deck. I placed my hands behind my back and put the wax on the back of the card. I asked him to turn over the top card of the deck. He laughed and said I wasn't a real magician. I mentioned that sometimes the effects don't work on narrow minded people, then I placed my hand on his shoulder. As soon as my hand was on his shoulder, I told him that my mind is so narrow that you have to turn sideways to walk through it. I didn't want him to feel threatened, especially since he had the chosen card stuck to his back.

I thanked them and walked away with them laughing about me not finding the card. About 20 minutes later I heard the whole table roaring as they saw the card on his back.

There are always ways to deal with it, just don't lose your cool.

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The thing I find funny some times is that you introduce yourself to the table and everyone seems real nice and there is one person that you find to be a good person but then when you start performing to them, they suddenly turn into this monster that cant been seen enjoying themselves when watching magic and there personality totally changes!!

Thanks for all the help guys; I will see how things go Smile

Thanks again, magico563 Smile
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Just my two cents here...

First of all I stick to Kentons rule of when approaching a table, try to impress the guy they are all looking at or talking to, win him over and they are all on side.

But if you do get a heckler I make a point of making him look like an ***, if he grabs the deck I just smile and pretend its the funniest thing ever and that that's what I wanted, then when I get it back, smile away and just say "he's brilliant, I'll let him carry on entertaining you" and walk straight off to another table.

Or if someone is just heckling you, STOP mid effect and walk off without saying a word. This baffles everyone at the table and unsettles them, just remember to keep smiling at all times.

Brad Christian (I'm not ashamed to say some of my earlier DVDs were his) made the point that your magic is too important to you to let some loser spoil it just because he is "mentally irregular". The most important thing to know is no matter how good you are, you'll NEVER win over a heckler, they don't want to be won over and would never admit to being impressed by you. And the longer you engage with such fools, the more they can bring you down and ruin your night.

And might I offer you this NLP technique to rid you of your bad memory of the gig (this is a classic).

Imagine the heckler standing about 10 feet away from you... naked. Also see a huge glass window between the two of you. The heckler is pooing into his own hand and flinging it toward you as hard as he can, only he'll never realise that his poo will stay on his side of the window, stinking up his world, thus making him throw more poo at everyone else he see's because he is so angry. All you have to do is maybe pity him and know that you can look away whenever you want, and realise that he is going to be stuck there all his life.

(Mods please leave this post be as the words are not offensive and I want the guys to get the benefit of the technique.... Ta)
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Truth good visual, honestly, that sums it up in a lot of ways.

I have one heckler story that I cant share because in mere words it would not acuratly depict the event. Long story short, the world moves on, either you are better or worse for it depending on what you take away. In table hopping a heckler can far worse than in a big group. Often times my intro consists of "if you like this trick feel free to clap and ill show you some more but if you don't like it say thanks, shake my hand, and ill be off" no one has ever sent me off. At last that gives them the option I guess.

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If there was an Ultimate Heckler my Uncle Tony would be him. I'd have my family going at like Christmas and then bang he walks in and stares at my hands doesn't listen to a word I say and just ruins most tricks but not because he guesses right but because he brings down the mood. But one Xmas I came prepared I had an I.D. and a Queen of Hearts that was folded and I put his name on the back of it and put it in my pocket. Well just like always he started being an a** then I just stopped mid-routine said okay Uncle Tony just name one card.....HE NAMED THE QUEEN OF HEARTS (score)...I went in my pocket and said here I have something with your name on it I handed it to him smiled and continued with the trick I was in the middle of...It took a few seconds then he showed every1 the card he smiled than said "How the f*** did you do that?" Ever since then he just shut up and watched my magic and actually enjoyed it
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If they don't want to be entertained, don't entertain them.

The first time laugh it off, the second time walk away.

Unless you're Penn and Teller..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3p6DOktFhx4
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P.S. Strong Magic by Darwin Ortiz has a great chapter on hecklers and audience management.
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Brilliant clip John... Cheers.
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What a way to deal with a heckler!
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I enjoyed the clip...HOWEVER...

What we see Penn do is what we all WISH we could do...and that is turn the heckler around and get him to enjoy our show or be impressed with our skill. The guy in Penn's clip (I'm guessing a paid part of the show) is an A$swhole who by the end of Penn doing this and then that, is now impressed and applaudes and it's concluded with a handshake.

HOW NICE would this be if we could all do this. My thing, is I would hate for a young one to be watching this and think that "if I just work harder and do more impressive things, I'll win this guys respect."

The best way to handle it is LEAVE QUICKLY and don't put up with it!
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I whole heartedly agree with Lyle...
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Same *** could advice in this thread. I test out my effects on a close mate from university, if it gets the OK from him I show his mates as well. This really is the test of all tests for me as they are all Applied Science Students (exercise science) just like myself, so if it goes down well with them that covers a big demographic.
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Stop, bid them good day, and walk. There are plenty of people who want to play nice. Bob
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