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magicofCurtis
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Magicalmischief,

Good point.... Smile
gardini
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I was a a door to door salesman for about 15 years, I've read a huge amount of the marketing/sales books out there, and its and exteame rarity to find a new approach, most are rehashes of old techinic's that's been around for over 50 years, Every once and a while some one collects them and puts them in a new cover and sometimes even has a new slant on one which in marketing is honestly the most you can hope for because basically if you can think of it I can almost guarenttee that is been tried before and if it was a workable idea someone has based a book on it.

Tip books are very help to people because they normaly have a huge amount of ideas in one place, I have created my own for personal use but it took like 10 years to put together.

If someone spends the time to complie a book like this, and turn around sell it for 10 bucks we should say thank you because if reading this book gives us one new idea, or remines you about and old idea that you've forgotten about then its money well spent.

On a side note before anyone asks are you going to buy it, I have booked my first performce in almost 6 months, Ive been too sick to work for a quite a while now, just getting back into the game, its a bit too out of my price range right now (have a wife and 5 kids,no joke I'm broke), but after I get caught up abit I will be able to check it out. In the last week since I reentered the work force I booked a conference and 2 department store walk arounds, so I'll be buying it in no time.

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Majority of music business guides are pretty much
the same points over and over.

they re-work it with newer graphics, layout and
some new up-to-date approaches.

I've read a lot of them, and magazines always
have something new in them.

there's a few magazines I keep up with and there's
always something I might not of read or didn't apply
to me at the time that does now.

and then you learn from others, and talk to the best
in the business. which makes it even better.
you will remember my name

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Al Angello
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Mai-Ling
Some guys buy them all in spite of the fact that there are no new ideas out there.
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Some guys buy none of them in spite of the fact that there are new ideas out there.




No one (else) suggested there was nothing new out there... I certainly don't "know it all". There were several NEW things in the worthwhile books of lists and resources, and I doubt seriously that anyone here, who is truly honest with themselves, could suggest ANY different, "IF" you read it.

The best news is that EVERY time I invest I find something new out there, but that is not always a good reason to invest either, is it?

Others above said it well, so there is no need to restate it again.

Here is what I KNOW:
I made over $1,200.00 bucks (so far) from just ONE of the tips/links in the $10.00 eBook, and it is far from over yet. I guess it was a worth-while $10.00 investment, eh’?

Good shares guys… back to work for me.
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Nice going dean.
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Hey Dean,

What number idea was it or what web link? Just wondering. Glad you are having success. Gotta go, be back later.
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I think it was the first of the "links" Event*****.com
Dean Hankey, *M.D. - The Dean of Success Solutions!
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Dean gets it. "The principle of the slight edge." Dan Kennedy talks about this, and it makes sense.

That's why Dean's successful.
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I want to be successful like the dean!
Seems to me that death is just natures way of telling us to SLOW DOWN!
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It’s really NO SECRET… Success is 100% LUCK!

See what I mean on my Video Blog (It’s FREE Too…) if you haven’t already from a few weeks ago about THIS VERY SUBJECT.

Enjoy (or what-ever… hehehehehe.)

I am at your service and In HIS Service,
Deano (Has The Magic Bullet Secret) in Reno
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Well while I am thinking of it I am just going to post this. Hope it does not make too many more enemies than I have already.

First problem most have when discussing "Success" is that this is one of those subjective definitions. It has a different meaning.

For one success is nothing short of national TV. For another it is nothing more than being able to pay the bills. For another it is a happy family life, and a few extra buckarinos to throw around on a nice dinner every couple weeks. Still others want fame with no fortune, and others fortune with no fame. AND ALL POINTS IN BETWEEN!

So first off you need to define what success means to YOU, prior to being able to set out after it! Otherwise you are setting sail with no destination, and maybe you will be lucky and make it, but probably not.

So then the next thing you need to do is to have an act. Yep get one. Not a few tricks, not a collection of things, but an ACT. A SERVICE you can provide for someone.

Why are magicians in general so lazy that they are looking for a 'system' or a 'method' and don't just go do it? Oh well I guess that is enough.
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Danny, I agree with you!
But you have to remember most magicians do not look at magic as a business.
We love to entertain and forget that we need to market and hustle for gigs.
That is why they (we) look for a "system". I am not sure if it is laziness or just lack of knowledge. These systems are probably good. But you hit it right on the head, success is subjective. I mean no offense to any marketing system, but for example, "Make $25k a year part time doing Magic" (not sure if that is the correct title)I know people that are doing that right now without the help of a system. They are basically looking to double or triple that figure.
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Danny is RIGHT!

"Success is Subjective" the cool thing is YOU get to choose what your own success is... and THAT is what each of you should go for and aspire to.

Certainly no one is suggesting otherwise... nice observation Danny!

Why would anyone think you an enemy for pointing out the obvious truth? Good stuff!

I am at your service and in HIS Service,
Deano (loves "MY" success) in Reno
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Quote:
On 2008-04-15 13:42, TheDean wrote:
It’s really NO SECRET… Success is 100% LUCK!


Dean I must disagree with you on this one. "Success is not luck. Success comes from taking chances, networking, and opening yourself up to opportunity. Actions and behaviors of those who create their own luck must not be underestimated. Remaining open to opportunities, and that openness is the key to so called luck.

It can range from talking to strangers, dropping names, ease dropping, asking for help, and staying focus on your goal.
Also, allowing yourself detouring from the path to pursue new ones as they come open and being able to identify them. And exiting in a timely manner without burning bridges."
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This hysterical! - - Did ya' READ the post?????? Hehehehehe!

When you Read the POST and "do what it says"! (Watch the video...) and it will all become clear! Success requires action... watch the video! (as was pointed out in the post!)

=> LUCK stands for: (I've said it here a million times!)

L abor
U nder
C orrect
K nowledge

Your need to apply LABOR AND acquire the correct knowledge in this thread if you want to UNDERSTAND and be able to comment with any kind of “success”... hehehehe!

As I said (IN THE VIDEO) Labor will our perform know how ANY day of the week, BUT to getheather, we can be virtually unstoppable! - Like DUH!

Read the post... wath the VIDEO, "THEN" comment on the discussion, Okey Dokey?

I am at your service and In HIS Service,
Deano (follows directions and KNOWS what he is doing before commenting) in Reno – HA!
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"Book More Shows... Make More Money... SERVE MORE PEOPLE! - Not Necessarily In That Order…"

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magicofCurtis
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Dean,

I thought I was missing something... Smile
TheDean
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Hehehehehehehehe...

I know I am... a spell checker! (HA!)
Dean Hankey, *M.D. - The Dean of Success Solutions!
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"Book More Shows... Make More Money... SERVE MORE PEOPLE! - Not Necessarily In That Order…"

(*Marketing Doctor) Smile
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More than 2 200 vieuws,
three pages of comments.
What a way to promote your book!
The man knows sommething about marketing ;-)

-Koenraad
MikeClay
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With years of experience in Internet marketing and training companies on how to get more of a edge over competition online.. WOW!! just what I was thinking Koenraad...
my only fault in the guy is for not having a website for the ebook LOL
he could have made over a grand just from the hype that got stirred up here if he had a good website with the right marketing into it...
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