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Dustin Baker
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I'd like to see how many table hoppers are using chop cups; of them what are your complaints (if any) about chop cups as a table hopping routine?

Reason for asking: I've been using a custom chop cup that I made myself. I've had it for about a year and several magicians have asked where I got it - because they wanted to buy one. I want to see, if it's advantages match the current market's woes.

Request - to make it a bit easier to keep track, please put at the top of your post:
YES = I use a chop cup

NO = I don't use a chop cup

Sometimes = I use a chop cup on occasion or I leave it in the back and bring it out for special guests.
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Pete Biro
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Sometimes -- I use a leather cup so it is quiet when I load in cue ball and 8 ball. More often than not, nowdays, I use a bowl routine with a rubber toilet plunger.
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YES = I use a chop cup.

I love the chop cup. I've been collecting them for years. I have no less than 150 chop cups. I last bought over 30 chop cups from an estate sale. However, my wife has decided enough is enough. Over the next few months I will be selling a lot of them.

I perform in a number of up scale restaurants 4 nights a week. I never leave home without one. I have every size they come in. However, my favorite are ceramic or porcelin cups. My only complaint is their size. When I use a mini cup, it will fit in my pocket with no problem. However, when I use the larger size I carry it in a cloth bag.
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SOMETIMES. I do mostly wedding receptions and usually there is no room at the tables. But I keep one in my briefcase and sometimes do it at the bar when people are waiting to order drinks.
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On 2008-03-25 20:51, Daryl -the other brother wrote:
SOMETIMES. I do mostly wedding receptions and usually there is no room at the tables. But I keep one in my briefcase and sometimes do it at the bar when people are waiting to order drinks.


Clarification:
The issue is not being able to use table space then? Just making sure.

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On 2008-03-25 19:35, nonvpro wrote:

I perform in a number of up scale restaurants 4 nights a week. I never leave home without one. I have every size they come in. However, my favorite are ceramic or porcelin cups. My only complaint is their size. When I use a mini cup, it will fit in my pocket with no problem. However, when I use the larger size I carry it in a cloth bag.


So you favor the mini-cups?
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YES - I've been using the Dennis Loomis mini chop cup for about 4 years. It's the size of a shot glass so it takes up minimal pocket space, the brass construction looks great, the routine can be done in their hands, and it works beautifully. I bring it with everywhere. The vanish of the cup at the end of the routine absolutely kills.

I've also worked with a somewhat similar routine - Jiggernaut by Mark Jenest. Very fun, but I prefer the Loomis mini cup.
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I enjoy Jiggernaut by Mark Jenest - it's fun and gets very good reaction. I recently discovered Bob Solari's Major Development and I'm having a great old fun with it. Major Development uses chop cup principles.
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I have since day one opened with a chop cup routine.

I have one special made of wood.
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I have always used the chop cup behind the bar. But doing walk a round it is just too much to carry. I travel very light when doing walk a round. But chop cup is a great piece of table magic. I have grabbed it from behind the bar and done it at tables when requested and it doesn't need much space for performing. The only problem I have with the chop cup personally is that its too much to carry. But if you work with a case then it wouldn't be a problem. I even load from my pants pockets and the final loads I have are pretty big and can be very obviously seen in my pocket but nobody has ever said anything about them. I have even done my dice stack at tables and my final load for that is a solid chunk of steel that fills the entire cup. I hold it between my knees for the entire trick. Good for the glutes. Smile

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Does anyone know of a clip of Don Allen doing his routine. If not, how bout' someone doing Don Allen's routine? I'd love to add this to my library of great magic clips that I have saved on my PC. Searches have turned up dry....
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Dustin Baker
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Well I'm happy to say that all Chop-cup woes thus far are going right where I expected.

Current Problems Named:
Cup is too bulky
Loads take up too much room
Table space is unavailable

Keep 'em coming.
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YES= I use a chop cup! Why? For me the chop Cop have all the magic Things happen. The Ball vanishes,Appear,penetrate,grow and change color...For me the chop cup plays very well in a Table Hooping situation!
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I bought one of the best chop cups ever made a year ago from Pete. Thomas Wayne's chop coffee mug. I use it occasionally. We never use things as much as we think we will. If I'm in a strolling situation where there will be a lot of kids, I'll take it. I prefer to travel light, only a deck of cards, coins, maybe some rubber bands. That will give me 15-20 minutes at every table. For special VIP tables, after dinner I often return and do the 3 cup routine. So, to answer your question, sometimes.
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YES
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WAS A REQUEST AND SO FEW USED IT Smile
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Well, a few people did it. I've been keeping up with the thread a lot more than I thought I would, so people's answers are getting across.

Thanks for tryin' though.
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Yes. I don't use table space for the routine.
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I am glad that this post has come up as I am very interested in putting together a chop cup routine.

Has anybody ever used the salt shaker chop cup? If so is it any good?

Lylemagic, you can find don Alan preforming a beautiful Chop Cup routine on The Greater Magic Series Volume 28 The Don Alan DVD.
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On 2008-03-26 15:11, truesoldier wrote:
I am glad that this post has come up as I am very interested in putting together a chop cup routine.

Has anybody ever used the salt shaker chop cup? If so is it any good?

Lylemagic, you can find don Alan preforming a beautiful Chop Cup routine on The Greater Magic Series Volume 28 The Don Alan DVD.


1: I'm doing market research not a general conversation on chop cups. Read the first post.

2: No, the salt shaker chop cup is not a good idea. I made one for the sake of it and found it to be darn near useless.

3: I believe Lyle is looking for a clip of the performance, not a means to learn the effect.
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On 2008-03-26 14:01, Harry Murphy wrote:
Yes. I don't use table space for the routine.


George Schindler in his last dvd "Entertainment First" use a Chop Cup (Mug style) and make a "Penetration" thru the hand of the spectator ans looks very nice! I use it and have a great reaction!
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YES

I used the chop cup in my restaurants every week for 3 years. Since then I've been using it at each walkaround gig that I've been doing. I've stopped restaurants, but I am working very frequently at private events.

Problems: I have to carry it around in a cloth bag, and sometimes I leave it at tables. I hate having to return to a table, apologize, and interrupt a meal but it does happen occassionally. The people never mind but it drives me nuts.
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