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Chris Boyd Regular user Mansfield, TX 155 Posts |
I had had pi memorized up to 3.14159265358979, and people thought I wa a nerd. I recently started memorizing more, and I am up to 50 digits.
The site I am using has it up to 1 million digits. http://newton.ex.ac.uk/research/semicond....../pi6.txt
Chris Boyd
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Reg Rozee Special user Vancouver, Canada 592 Posts |
The 50th place is a good one, that's the second occurrence of 0. The next 15 are easy as they have a good rhythm - 5820 974 944 59230. After about a week of looking at it for a couple of minutes every morning (my usual method) I'm solid to about 300 digits again. I'm just recovering lost ground right now so it'll probably go pretty fast for a while, as long as the men in the white coats don't come for me before I'm done...
-bigwolf {*}
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Chris Boyd Regular user Mansfield, TX 155 Posts |
Okay....less than 24 hours later, and I have 125 digits down solid. If I stopped right now, didn't look at them for two days, and you asked me cold Wednesday morning, I'd remember up to 0664709384.
This IS getting addictive. When I hit 100-115, I happened to find it to be quite a soothing rhythm...8214 808 651 32823, and ending with a palindrome at that.
Chris Boyd
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Reg Rozee Special user Vancouver, Canada 592 Posts |
I'd say you're hooked! Once you start to find the rhythm soothing, the monster has ya. I used to recite it under my breath when I felt stressed (which led to my wife thinking that I was "losing it"...) What I find interesting is that I can tell you hear different rhythmic pieces than I do eg I have 1328230 in a group together. Remember, this obsession can be a dangerous thing (don't forget the movie as a clear demonstration of that!) Keep us posted on your progress...
-bigwolf {*}
Reality is what doesn't go away when you stop believing in it. -Phillip K. Dick
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Chris Boyd Regular user Mansfield, TX 155 Posts |
I could not get to sleep last night; I kept hearing those numbers rolling around in my head. My favorite new rhythm is 9550 5822 3172 535.
So, I have 200 down solid now, and I am seriously considering whether the risk to my mental health is low enough to warrant sallying forth toward the Feynman point. Is 75 extra digits a day too many in your estimation? Get this, my wife is getting into it, as well. Last night, she would not go to sleep until she had the first 50 down cold. I think she might benefit more from the mnemonics matrix system (A-J, 1-10). .... .... ....(how sad are WE?) Maximillian Cohen: Something's going on. It has to do with that number. There's an answer in that number. Pi (1998)
Chris Boyd
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Nir Dahan Inner circle Munich, Germany 1390 Posts |
here is a small Pi-puzzle.
-What is the probability to find your phone number in PI? -What about longer numbers? (does it matter???) Nir P.S. Isn't it easier to remember Pi the way the Bible says? Just remember 3. |
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Reg Rozee Special user Vancouver, Canada 592 Posts |
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On 2003-04-01 07:51, Dulcimer Hammer wrote: Heh heh, man it's really got you. Ultimately you are the only one who can decide what is too fast, but my advice is to pace yourself as much as you can, especially if you want to go over say 500 digits. Not being able to sleep with the numbers bouncing around is a familiar sign to me, and I would think means you should try to slow down a little. For me the next step to purgatory was reciting it under my breath whenever I was waiting for something (bus, elevator, etc). When I first got hooked I wanted as much of it as possible as fast as possible. For me, that way lies burnout, twitchiness, frantically chanting numbers under the breath, etc. -- all things that may get you a private padded room if you aren't cautious! This time I'm only taking around 20 to 25 a day, even though I know I can do more, so I can hopefully sustain it longer without making myself nuts! I should point out that I've always been a little obsessive-compulsive, and for people with this tendancy I think memorizing pi is a real invitation to obsession. If you aren't like this, it probably won't bother you as much as it did me. However, if your wife gets hooked too, you could be in real trouble! Mine pulled me back from the abyss, sounds like yours might jump into it with you... It is kinda sad, isn't it? That's how I talked myself out of it the first time, but alas it didn't stick. Great quote by the way, I have GOT to see that movie again -- this discussion has had parts of it playing over and over in my head. -bigwolf {*}
Reality is what doesn't go away when you stop believing in it. -Phillip K. Dick
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Chris Boyd Regular user Mansfield, TX 155 Posts |
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On 2003-04-01 08:47, Nir Dahan wrote: Either 100% chance of finding your phone number (like monkeys typing on typewriters for infinity will eventually produce Shakespeare's Hamlet), or it is undefined, since pi stretches to infinity and infinity is undefined. I don't know that much about theoretical math. I saw the movie in the theatre the second weekend it was out. I loved the title, having been a math buff all my life (AP Calc in high school, UIL Math Team...went to regionals, AHSME and AIME tests, Silver Feather Award in Math, etc). I may even end up teaching middle school math at some point, if elementary school ends up boring me. As for the Monster, I am at 225, and I think I may end up slowing down to 50 for a couple days, then 30, then 20. I found myself struggling to remember stuff I had down yesterday. I'll get there. The obsessive-compulsive thing has always been a problem for me, but not always too bad of a burden. I always get my work done before anyone else, but on the other hand, if I am doing something and, for example, out of the corner of my eye I catch a scrap of paper on the floor just waiting to be thrown away, I cannot continue until it is out of sight and out of mind in that trash can.
Chris Boyd
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Nir Dahan Inner circle Munich, Germany 1390 Posts |
what about finding a series of 1000 consecutive 1s in PI.
what about finding all your families ID numbers following one another in PI? what is the difference between the cases - if there is one. Nir |
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Reg Rozee Special user Vancouver, Canada 592 Posts |
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On 2003-04-01 17:53, Nir Dahan wrote: The differing probability of such cases is only relevant when the set you are searching is finite. If you accept the statement that pi is truly infinite, then every possible combination of numbers, no matter how long or apparently improbable, will occur somewhere within it (probability of 1). -bigwolf {*}
Reality is what doesn't go away when you stop believing in it. -Phillip K. Dick
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RandyStewart Inner circle Texas (USA) 1989 Posts |
Oh no! Did we talk about the set being finite?
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Chris Boyd Regular user Mansfield, TX 155 Posts |
300.
Patterns are getting harder, but _6648_2133_93_60_72_6 (where the _ preceding a digit gives it more emphasis) was quite helpful.
Chris Boyd
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Reg Rozee Special user Vancouver, Canada 592 Posts |
I don't know if it would help, but I use quite long patterns in that section (you may not hear these or remember longer ones well). Each one has a bit of a lilt or a swing in my head, almost like rap or a nursery rhyme. For example, I use these as single groups:
6072602491412737 245870066063 155881748815 (this one is so cool...) 20920962829 -bigwolf {*}
Reality is what doesn't go away when you stop believing in it. -Phillip K. Dick
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Chris Boyd Regular user Mansfield, TX 155 Posts |
What I am employing is simply memorizing what the beginning sequence is every 50 digits, and all the numbers that follow it. Having 50 at a time, six times, is a lot easier than having 300 in a row.
For example, .14159 (1), 5820 (51), 8214808 (101), 4811174 (151), 442881 (201), and 4564856 (251). I noticed your sequence above, which ends on digit 301, doesn't seem to follow that trend. To each his own, I guess.
Chris Boyd
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Steven Steele Chief of Staff 1868 Posts |
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If you accept the statement that pi is truly infinite, then every possible combination of numbers, no matter how long or apparently improbable, will occur somewhere within it (probability of 1). OK...let's see, then the probability of all numbers of PI being 1 is 1! But, given an infinite amount of time, wouldn't the probablity of each number appearing approach 0.1? And I wonder what percentage each number appears at this point?
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Reg Rozee Special user Vancouver, Canada 592 Posts |
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On 2003-04-07 00:03, Dulcimer Hammer wrote: It's true, my method has a lot more "chaos" in it. My blocks start and stop wherever I hear a natural rhythm. The disadvantage to this method is that I can't stop exactly at an increment of 50, and I don't necessarily know what decimal place I am at while reciting. But it's a lot of fun! -bigwolf {*}
Reality is what doesn't go away when you stop believing in it. -Phillip K. Dick
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Reg Rozee Special user Vancouver, Canada 592 Posts |
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On 2003-04-07 00:32, Steven Steele wrote: That's the problem with the concept of infinity... it makes my head hurt! There are so many paradoxes lurking in it you never know when one is going to jump out and grab you. As soon as you try to make a statement like the 0.1, you contradict the definition of infinity. For example, as soon as you imply that something is a certain percentage of something else, you imply the "something else" has a limit, which infinity doesn't. What is one tenth of infinity? Infinity! The safest answer is probably the same as for division by zero - undefined! -bigwolf {*}
Reality is what doesn't go away when you stop believing in it. -Phillip K. Dick
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Chris Boyd Regular user Mansfield, TX 155 Posts |
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On 2003-04-07 12:08, bigwolf wrote: Of course, when you divide a number by increasingly smaller numbers, you get increasingly larger answers, to the point where (I would think) that division by zero would yield infinity. For example. 10 divided by 100 is 1/10. 10 divided by 10 = 1. 10/1 = 10, 10/(1/10)=100, 10/(1/100)=1000 ... 10/(1/1 billion)= 10 billion, etc. Theoretical math gives me a headache, so I am going to shut up now. Incidentally, I am now at 575 pretty solid, and I have video footage of myself reciting to 562 while juggling two tennis balls and a whiffle ball.
Chris Boyd
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Chris Boyd Regular user Mansfield, TX 155 Posts |
Finally, I have reached the Feynman Point. I have 767 digits of pi stuck in my head. Over halfway to my goal of 1500.
The voices are getting louder now. I can feel my sanity slipping away ever so slowly, like grains of sand through an hourglass. Life was good once; everything was coming up roses. But those roses, it seems, contained ready-to-sting bees. It's sort of ironic; my cognitive capacity weakens by the day while my upper arms grow continually stronger from all the juggling. Perhaps, the moment before I completely lose touch with reality, I will have the foresight to punch myself out. Then maybe, just maybe, there will be a chance for all the kings horses and the white-coated men to put Humpty-Dumpty together again before he wakes up and crosses that threshold: the brink of sheer madness.
Chris Boyd
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