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monkeyguitar10 New user 9 Posts |
I just noticed that someone revealed Torn Too by Daniel Garcia on YouTube. Does anyone know how to get it off? They should not be putting his tricks on there for free.
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Mercury52 Inner circle Kevin Reylek 2239 Posts |
I guess your best bet would be to e-mail Penguin and let them know. Penguin should be able to contact YouTube to have it removed.
Sadly, a lot of stuff gets revealed on YouTube nowadays. Also, it's probably a good idea to not bring up specific items that are being exposed. This thread almost invites people to go check it out on YouTube. Whenever you see this sort of thing, just contact the owner of the material, rather than posting about it on an open forum.
Kevin Reylek
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Magicmatt1982 Loyal user Southeren IL 295 Posts |
I think that it is taken off because I looked for it, and it is not there.
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Thomas Kwon Veteran user 333 Posts |
Now, let us hope that it won't come up again...
...which probably will happen within 12 hours of this post. |
nonvpro Inner circle 1844 Posts |
Just saw it today (Sunday 5/11).
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Crimson-Death New user Since 2006 88 Posts |
It's always the adorable little brats whose parents are nowhere to be seen. Really, do parents think this is ok? Where are the morals and ethics and principles? Well, at least we get these pearls of ethereal wisdom from $30 gurus:
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Hai..everybody From the mouths of babes....
Sleight of hand and twist of fate
On a bed of nails she makes me wait And I wait without you With or without you With or without you |
Thomas Kwon Veteran user 333 Posts |
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On 2008-05-12 10:04, Crimson-Death wrote: Wow... just wow... so these kids think that the effect is not worth the $$? Perhaps because they don't appreciate the genuine beauty of secrets within the effects that makes it easy and simple to perform... |
Crimson-Death New user Since 2006 88 Posts |
Yeah, instead of the pride of hard work and dedication, these kids would rather obtain the misguided sense of satisfaction, the sense of being special, by teaching something that is not theirs to teach. They did not even work for the money to buy these DVDs, because they cannot even comprehend yet what it is to work hard for that money, and they cannot even comprehend yet the responsibility of knowing how to spend that money, and they cannot even comprehend yet the responsibility of knowing how to take care of what it is they are buying with that money, whether material or idea. Therefore, they cannot even comprehend yet that they have no right to try to teach this kind of material and put this kind of video in the Internet. Again I ask, where are the parents?
Why should one feel offended by this kind of situation? Simply because this is a microcosm, a snowflake in the snowstorm, of stupidity and ignorance that makes the world what it is. Sorry, I had a bad year.
Sleight of hand and twist of fate
On a bed of nails she makes me wait And I wait without you With or without you With or without you |
passerby New user The Midwest 5 Posts |
You guys act like it's hard to come up with a gimmick. The only good gimmicks are the ones I can't make myself. Do you know how many card tricks I've invented? Color changes, too. And, tricks based off color changes. The knowledge of a sleight or simple gimmick (one you can make yourself) is rarely worth $30.
Really, the best value I get out of buying a trick with a simple gimmick is getting a lesson on how to perform it from a pro. Like Extreme Burn. I bought that and could have made it myself, but I wouldn't have had time to come up with the cool presentation and changes R. Sanders does. Yet, do I think the secret was worth $30? Not so much. Cool effect, though. And trust me, I know what it takes to make a dollar, but I don't like feeling ripped off. If the kids thought the secret was worth keeping, I'm sure they would have done that. But they buy the thing and think, "Oh...so that's it?" and they get upset. The people peddling magic are going to have to reinvent their business in the face of new technology.
"My theory is that style is defined largely by what you can’t do" - Jerry Garcia
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passerby New user The Midwest 5 Posts |
Let me clarify my last post. The lesson R. Sanders gives is worth around $25-$30, sure. But there should be no complaining after he sells it and it goes public. Once it's public, someone's bound to do their imitation. Some might come from the competitors, but some will come from YouTube too. By reinvent themselves, I mean to make gimmicks people cannot make themselves and to come up with a higher rate of _quality_ trick production to counter competition. It can be done.
"My theory is that style is defined largely by what you can’t do" - Jerry Garcia
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Skeleton Veteran user Germany 318 Posts |
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On 2009-04-12 18:40, passerby wrote: Well, it has been a while since I heard such bull....: 1) Selling something is hardly going public in the sense of the stuff being free for everyone - if so, the seller would have made it available for free! 2) And a revealing of the secret on YouTube is hardly an imitation, but pure and simple stealing! 3) Since when does the originality and/or the possibility to make a necessary gimmick yourself justify/define the price? The asked for price is defined by the creator by how he values the involved creating-process, work, etc. It is up to the buyer to decide if he is willing to pay that price or not, and if he did pay the price, then for him the effect was worth it - so why complain afterwards? (OK, I also once and again bought stuff that in the end I did not use or was disappointed with, but at the moment of buying I was willing to pay the asked for price, so who's to blame?) So let's face it - all this revealing tricks on YouTube or elsewhere is just about this 10 seconds-fame and/or this "Look, I don't give a .... about ruining someone's existence/robbing magic of its fascination/etc." attitude.
To infinity, and beyond!
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Pakar Ilusi Inner circle 5777 Posts |
Passerby, what about Magic that has no gaff or special props?
Those are worth nothing then?
"Dreams aren't a matter of Chance but a matter of Choice." -DC-
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