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erlandish
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I was wondering what you guys thought about these. There are three different kinds of chop cups here, with a tennis theme, a pool theme and a dice theme.

http://www.sbmagik.com/store/index.php?cPath=21

I hope this doesn't come across as marketing, because I'm not affiliated with the store or anything. I'm not sure what to think. On the one hand, being "themed" presentations there are natural spins and motivations that can be brought in. Plus, I handled them and they seem to be of nice quality. On the other hand, I wonder if these scream "magic props"...? In other words, if I do this sort of routine -- rather than a traditional routine with unspectacular props -- will the prop get more credit than the magician?
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These are good questions - but I've always favored themed presentations using traditional props. That is, using my favorite chop cup of the moment with a unique storyline.............
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Of the three, the best cup is the dice cup. The "pool table pocket" has a rather cheap feel to it. It will probably last a long time, but it just feels funny. The tennis ball chop cup is obviously a specially cut down tennis ball can. At least I have never seen a short tennis ball can in a sporting goods store. And I visit several of them regularly.
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The tennis ball canister is not very good in my mind. It doesn't always "catch" like it should. The paint has also chipped inside of the canister.I have mine in a drawer.

I have heard that the dice is the best, like Mr Palmer said.

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Well,here we have a good theme. I have the Tennis Chop cup....in a drawer too. The prop have good posibilities because looks like normal stuff,tennis ball and canister but the mechanism of the pk its not so good...so I use the regular chop cup but answering your question the Dice is the bestand have some good ideas for presentation...
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I think themed is good, and themed props hold it all together. But I agree that props made specifically for a (close-up)routine can look suspect. The dice cup makes sense to me, but I don't know if younger people are familiar with such a thing. The pool set, with tiny cue, seems particularly contrived.
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That's the thing I'm worried about, Josh. With cards, coins and non-mentalism mentalism (don't ask) I can keep the heat off the props, but with something like this I'm not sure sure. It certainly fits the themes and aesthetics I'm going for, but I don't want to introduce the notion of "trick" props. I'm really inexperience in this area, which is why I was asking.

Bill, I was learning towards the dice from the start because I can do a fair bit with dice already. Does that particular set handle well? Is noise a problem at all (the dice seem like they'd be noisier than the knitted balls)?
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Here is a chop cup that I make.

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l296/r......1863.jpg

I had the pleasure of showing David Roth and Michael Rubinstein its interesting qualities. I will post a video of how it plays soon.

It is a bamboo set and I use real fruits as balls and loads.

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Looks Really nice...you make only for yourself or you are thinking in sell to the magic comunity??? Congratulation for the Excellent work!!!
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For another unusual approach to a Chop Cup routine, check out Trashed! It uses a miniature trash can, flies instead of balls, and miniature bags of trash as the final load.
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Rannie, that is awesome. You always impress me. Great work!

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On 2008-04-07 00:33, rannie wrote:
Here is a chop cup that I make.

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l296/r......1863.jpg

I had the pleasure of showing David Roth and Michael Rubinstein its interesting qualities. I will post a video of how it plays soon.

It is a bamboo set and I use real fruits as balls and loads.

Rannie


I'd love to see that video.
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That's a beautiful set Rannie.
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Thank you Hansel, Scott and Josh! I really love this set. Yes I make it for myself but if people will be interested...who knows...I might just make some more. Perhaps with the routine. This chop cup has a certain feature that is quite unique.

Larry, thanks for your interest. I will make a video as soon as my sched clears up.

best from Manila,

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My favorate themed chop cup routine is david regals with the mice.
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Has anyone used the Dice Cup?
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My dice cups are now chop cups and vice versa. I just came out with a new line called "carbon fiber" which are about to be put on my website. You can PM me for photos.

My earlier model "the killer chop cup" has been re-designed and is now basically a chop cup / dice stacking cup with no dice. If you decide you want to try dice stacking you can just buy some dice. It's the most innocent chop cup around and the only one I know of on the market that can be used on any surface.

Also, If you can chop your own die you're good to go for a chop cup routine using dice.

There is a dice-stacking chop cup on the market but it is absolutely horrible.
The die work is quite noticible and the cup itself is a joke.
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Frank:

As you know, I have several of your dice cups. The workmanship on all of them is great!

If the other dice cup you are referring to is that thing by Brad Manuel, you are absolutely right. It's a piece of junk. If Brad sees this and is insulted, I don't apologize at all. The real insult is the price of this piece of offal.
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Larry:
That Trashed chop cup is just awesome and a great price! I couldn't resist!
Thanks for the tip...
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