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Greatest of all time? Cardini, hands down. Who else is there? Pollack, Burton, Neilson, Ross, Downs, maybe a few others.... possibly McBride but meh. I've seen a few others try. I saw Juliana Chen live but she was robotic and unimpressive. I'd rather watch a young Greg Wilson do his multiplying egg routine. So who else is there?
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I don't know about technical skill wise, but Terry Evanswood has one of the most beautiful card manipulation acts I have ever seen.

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Certainly Geoffrey Buckingham was a master of the art of manipulation. Topas should also be on here if you are making a list of modern day great manipulators. Also Shimada is a master and a student of Tenaki. We could also separate the list by stating who is a great technical manipulator of skill and who is a great manipulator ofd creativity. There is a difference here. Some have great skill and show that skill amazingly well. but others have this ability to take that skill and combine it with superb creativity to give the audience something more. These are the manipulators who are pushing the artform in new directions.

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Salvano dvd put out by Stevens magic.
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Walter Cummings old timer great manipulator. I believe Ray Goulet from the Magic Art studio in Watertown Mass put out a vhs tape at one time of Walter's moves.
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Mahka Tendo is also a good one. A wonderful Japanese card manipulator.
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I'd also put Lawrence Parsons in that group. He still performs, mostly in Europe and on Crusie ships, so he's not very well known in the states. If anyone has the old Silk King Studios catalog from the 70's, he and Heidi are the ones on the inside cover.

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If you ever seen Jeff Sheridan live you will see a living master .... His card work is perfect .....
Cardini is the king but there are a few masters that still create miracles.
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For modern day masters of manipulation it would be Lance Burton for dove work and Howard Hale for general manipulation.
I saw Hale about 16 years ago do his award winning act and was impressed,but then afterwards he gave a parlour show in one of smaller rooms of the hotel,and it blew me away!It was mainly an act of solid billiard work.His steals were undetectable there wasn't an unnatural move or momment to anything he did.
Lance is just flawless in what he does.
Now in my own personal opinion;I think the majority of card manipulators today have completely forgotten what naturalness looks like all together.
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I have only seen some 5-10 minute routines and read some books of the past great manipulators who were outstanding in every way.
However, since I own the set of Jeff McBride’s-"Art of card manipulations" and have seen him perform on stage.
My vote is for Jeff McBride, the way he handles cards (and other objects) is unbelievable!
Using his skills, he can take any object and turn it into first class magic.

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Juliana Chen. Enough said.
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Hi everyone,

I think Salvano was a great legend in magic also in manipulation. Also for my opinion Norbert Ferre who is from France is also a great manipulator. He has a different style but creative, powerful and elegant.


magicially yours,


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Open your eyes and your mind....Neil Foster and Fred Kaps are on the list. Ger Copper did some great BB work, candles and more. Magic Christian, Richard Ross just to add a few more Europeans.

Hobson used to do some killer manipulation...probably still does.

Plus, I have seen a lot of "unknowns" do some top notch manipulation.

Did I mention Neil Foster and Neil Foster and Neil Foster.
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I never saw Cardini, but, from everything I've read on him, the manipulation was secondary to himself as a memorable character: a slightly tipsy English gentleman who had these weird things happen to him. Add the "bellboy" (his wife), and it must have been quite the scene in a day when gentlemen wore tails and bellhops were expected to do their jobs.

Just today I was thinking of this (and I'll be doing a column on it over the next few days), and it really struck me how so many of the "classic" acts we remember had something to tie them into the then-current status quo. They didn't just do magic for the sake of magic, but they tied it into whatever the current themes and lifestyles and mentalities were. When I saw Geoffrey Buckingham do a lecture many years ago, his BB manipulation was out of this galaxy, but it was out of context in that I didn't see him do it at a club, playing to people who would recognize his style in a club setting and could relate to it. It was almost disappointing.

I'm totally with the camp that says that if the audience can't relate to what you're doing, it doesn't work.
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Considering the enormous amounts of time it takes to get manipulations down in general, I am not surprised that so few people on earth are willing to go through that process.
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On 2008-04-13 11:25, patrick66 wrote:
Considering the enormous amounts of time it takes to get manipulations down in general, I am not surprised that so few people on earth are willing to go through that process.

That's why there was only ONE Cardini, ONE Kaps.
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Frankson? Frankenstien had a son that did magic? LOL! I'm sure you meant Frakson
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Frankson? Frankenstien had a son that did magic? LOL! I'm sure you meant Frakson
Ooop! Yes I meant Frakson.
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I really agree with George. I think that a showing of skill alone by a manipulator just does not cut it for me. Is it good? Sure it can be but there is so much more that can be added to an act besides the manipulation and showing of skill alone.

cardini understood this and people walked away loving HIM and HIS character and not so much the tricks. He understood that the manipulations are simply a tool to be used to achieve an entertaining experience. people saw his act and fell in love with it and laughed and enjopyed it because of the character and theme and conflict and music and so many "layers" he placed into the act.

Too many manipulators these days learn the moves and the moves are everything to them. The act is a showing of skill and nothing more. To me that is like a steak that is not seasoned well. yeah, you will eat it but can it be better? Sure it can. it can be a LOT better. Give your audiences something more. Strive to be and seek creativity in the magic that you do. Your audiences deserve that from you.

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There are many manipulators who are amazing that you just don't hear too much about. I am suprised no one mentioned:
James Dimmare, Romaine, Ron Macmillan, Arthur Trace, David Sousa, Peter Marvey, Maurice Rooklyn, Benny Chavez, Peter Gloviczki, Edward Victor, Lewis Ganson, Arthur Buckley or Dale Salwak.
Plus everyone already mentioned in the other posts.

Cardone mentioned Jeff Sheridan. If you haven't seen his card work you are missing out! Also already mentioned was Magic Christian. He is like royalty over in Austria. I can't believe I almost forgot about thimbles. What about John Ramsay. Joe Mogar absolutely DESTROYED me when he showed me some of his thimble work. Denny Haney is unreal with cards and billiard balls. Richard Kaufman has some great billiard ball stuff as well.

I realize that I forgot to mention a number of names but hopefully this short list starts to answer your question.

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