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Christopher Lyle
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Is anyone out there performing this effect? I'm speaking of W:H Card in Ziploc Back effect. If so, I'm curious as to what your audience reactions have been? Good? Bad? I'm just curious...
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My son did it for a while - he doesn't anymore. I don't know why he dropped it. I seem to think that maybe the method was not reliable enough or (no pun intended) transparent to the specs. I'll ask him tomorrow.

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I have used this effect, and it’s great when it works. But like Scott said, the method is not reliable enough!

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Never bought it, but the method seems incredibly obvious.

Just a note: Houchin didn't invent that effect, an identical one has been on the market since the late '90s.
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So here's why I'm asking!

I had heard about WH's effect now for quite a while...prolly since BEFORE it was ever released by him. (Tho', I too had heard of the IDENTICAL EFFECT being released about a decade sooner.)

I watched him do it and immediately saw thru the effect! It was very obvious to me what was taking place. However...I'm one of those "ethical nut jobs" that feel an artist should be paid for their work, so instead of just doing the effect, I bought it. TA-DAH!

Now I figured that I could see thru the routine because I'm a Magician. But, not a layperson!!!!

I'm getting very mixed reactions with this effect. First, let me say that I've never had it fail on me, but I was thinking the reactions would be far greater than what I'm receiving with it. Many tell me that they know exactly how it's done (and they're right).

Is the routine that transparent to laymen? Hmmmm....ponder this, I will. I'm going to give it another few days in my act and see what develops and if my audiences gel with it, and then I think it's going in the circular file!

I was just curious if any of you out there were doing this routine and what your success (or lack their of) has been with it...
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Hey Christopher,

I checked with Christian, and it is just as a stated earlier, so you are on the right thought process. The placement of the card is crucial. You will understand.

There is an effect that Lee Asher has with a card pre-loaded into a baggie. The baggie is displayed with a Joker inside. A card is selected, returned to the deck and transposes with the Joker in the spectator's hands. It ends completely clean. The baggie with the card inside can be given away. I have experimented with adding a little more punch by sealing the baggie with tape, or even heat-sealing it. Sign the baggie and give it to the spectator.

It is called "Deuce Bag" and is in his "Thinking Out Loud" lecture notes.

I hope this helps!

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This has failed me multiple times, but the times that it hasn't, it gets amazing reactions. But to me, it's not worth the risk/reward factor if I am doing something formal at a party. The only time I would do that is with some friends at home or something.
Yes, Lee Asher's baggie trick is an excellent choice. Also, now he calls it "WITNESS" and he sells it on theory11.com. What's weird, though, is the first time saw Indecent, I was fooled, and the first time I saw Witness, I figured it out in like 30 seconds. But like Christopher, I went and bought it obviously for subtleties and to learn the exact method (which was what I first thought). I just think that it would have made more sense if I figured out Indecent and not Witness.... Smile
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If you don't mind switching to poly-bags, I have an alternate version that I think is a lot more convincing - involves a gimmick, though.
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I would be interested....

Thanks in advance,

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On 2008-04-06 14:54, Scott Compton wrote:
It is called "Deuce Bag" and is in his "Thinking Out Loud" lecture notes.


As morpheis91 wrote, he also markets the effect under the name "Witness" at Theory11. I would highly recommend picking that up!


As for Indecent, I have performed it 3 times in small group settings. The first attempt received quite the reaction. The second attempt went well, until I had to do the little bit of clean-up at the end (:P), and the third attempt was a disaster. I would never do this for a paid performance, but it's a fun little trick if you're with some buddies who want to see some magic. (I really hate calling one of Wayne Houchin's effects "a fun little trick.")
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I performed Indecent 1 time for a large group of family and friends all around a table. It worked perfectly and KILLED. They were all impressed by that one. I've done lots of tricks for these people over the years, and it's now months after the performance and people still mention "that baggie one".

It may seem obvious to us, but I guess in the right circumstances, it works quite well for lay audiences.

Not something I'd perform all the time (as I said, I've only ever performed it once), but I do think it has its place and can work quite well in certain situations.
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Lee Asher's bagged effect, I feel, is a bit more direct and less obvious.
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