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abc Inner circle South African in Taiwan 1081 Posts |
I have a vested interest in the result as a South African but to speculate here is futile.
Instead lets have a poll. What will happen first...... Results published or X mas 2008? |
Destiny Inner circle 1429 Posts |
Probably Xmas 2010 going on Mugabes previous form.
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Magnus Eisengrim Inner circle Sulla placed heads on 1053 Posts |
True results? Probably never, I'm afraid.
John
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned; The best lack all conviction, while the worst Are full of passionate intensity.--Yeats |
abc Inner circle South African in Taiwan 1081 Posts |
I was going to wait until the results were finally published and then post John's comment but he beat me to it.
What is alarming is the amount of aggresive comments being made by opposition leaders and the Youth movement. In the line of "you bullied us in 2000 and 2002 but this time we are willing to die for what we believe in like our fathers in 1970" I really hope this doesn't escalate into a civil war. It is looking more and more likely. |
Scott Cram Inner circle 2678 Posts |
Two guys here in Vegas just put $10,000 each on who would give up first. One guy bet on Robert Mugabe, the other bet on Hillary Clinton.
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Josh Riel Inner circle of hell 1995 Posts |
Soscial studues are for suckers.
Magic is doing improbable things with odd items that, under normal circumstances, would be unnessecary and quite often undesirable.
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Destiny Inner circle 1429 Posts |
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I really hope this doesn't escalate into a civil war. It is looking more and more likely. I agree that civil war would be terrible - but what choice do the people of Zimbabwe have? Mugabe and his henchmen are killing them anyway. Mugabe is a grand healthy 84 and meanwhile the people have a life expectancy in the mid 30's. There comes a time when they simply have to fight. (And unfortunately outside help is probably more likely if he is brutally murdering them rather than slowly starving them to death as at present.) |
abc Inner circle South African in Taiwan 1081 Posts |
In previous years they rigged elections or intimidated people and won but this year it seems to be different. I am sure that they still intimidated many yet they still lost (apparently). The people are fed up. They are going to fight back and from a freedom point of view that is good. What alarms me is that South Africa already has many problems of it own (power shortages) and they are really going toget dragged down by a war I feel the president of South Africa could have avoided had he been more forceful and charismatic. I am not a big Zuma fan but please when can we change the president??? Bring it on Zuma!!!
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Destiny Inner circle 1429 Posts |
Unfortunately, there are not enough Mandelas to go around - not even 1 in every generation. Great leaders appear to be a thing of the past at the moment as spin doctors and technocrats run the world.
The impasse in Zimbabwe would be settled immediately if Mbeki acted - Zimbabwe is reliant on South Africa for most things - and transit through SA for everything else. The ruling elite would soon be as bereft as their subjects if Mbeki chose. Destiny |
stoneunhinged Inner circle 3067 Posts |
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On 2008-04-11 03:06, plasticdestiny wrote: You are absolutely right. One would hope that "democracy" had somehow infected the globe enough to make great men unnecessary. But we haven't gotten that far yet. We sure could use a few more Mandelas. |
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