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kiss_bpp
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I wonder if it was another marketing ploy or true legit issues. I personally do want to pick up the deck but the $90 for the videos is a joke. I will have plenty of fun making up my own stuff with these. Alike the previously gaffed decks they put out.
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I like some of the stuff ellusionist has put out..but I feel like they are gouging with 90 bucks for 3 dvds
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Looks like they are going to start the promotion again today...im still out until the price gets better
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Yeah me too. I'll buy a few books.

The whole "Site problem due to OVERWHELMING response" thing seems kind of far fetched. Not a few hours after this "Supposedly" went down I had a e-mail from E complete with graphics and links about the new release date and all the details.
That was pretty fast Huh?

Even if it did happen it was probably due to the system having a bug in checkout for the new item. Not "OVERWHELMING" response.

Tim
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The effects on the DVD and lecture notes are far beyond your abilities. (They require mastery of the mechanic's grip.) It would only break your heart.
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If you look at the effects listing on each dvd, one dvd only has 5 effects taught. All 3 dvd's cover 20 total effects. I honestly think that this could have been broken down into a 2 dvd set with Wayne teaching his effects on one and Danny teaching his on another.

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My guess is that in a couple of months they will run a special with the 3 dvd set much cheaper...
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I wonder if ellusionist is having any problems today
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Yay, lack of buyers willing to pay $90.00 US. In Canadian currency I think that works out to $300.00.(lol) (:
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On 2008-04-16 10:30, Tim Jahn wrote:
Yeah me too. I'll buy a few books.

The whole "Site problem due to OVERWHELMING response" thing seems kind of far fetched. Not a few hours after this "Supposedly" went down I had a e-mail from E complete with graphics and links about the new release date and all the details.
That was pretty fast Huh?

Even if it did happen it was probably due to the system having a bug in checkout for the new item. Not "OVERWHELMING" response.

Tim


My thoughts exactly... To be honest, I think you've hit the nail on the head. Note how that an enormous email post was sent out following the alleged problem. Using such terms as 'server overload' ' sheer weight of customers'. Smile
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How does this compare with Sankey's Hypervisual gaffs?
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On 2008-04-17 05:27, Chappo wrote:
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On 2008-04-16 10:30, Tim Jahn wrote:
Yeah me too. I'll buy a few books.

The whole "Site problem due to OVERWHELMING response" thing seems kind of far fetched. Not a few hours after this "Supposedly" went down I had a e-mail from E complete with graphics and links about the new release date and all the details.
That was pretty fast Huh?

Even if it did happen it was probably due to the system having a bug in checkout for the new item. Not "OVERWHELMING" response.

Tim


My thoughts exactly... To be honest, I think you've hit the nail on the head. Note how that an enormous email post was sent out following the alleged problem. Using such terms as 'server overload' ' sheer weight of customers'. Smile


They seemed to have everything ready to go huh. There hasn't been that quick a response by anyone since the cops surrounded Lee Harvey Oswald in the movie theater.
E's kind of losing it from where I'm sitting. They lost most of their big names and now seem to think that MTV is the best answer. I really like a lot of the stuff that E has put out in the past. I haven't seen Brad in anything for quite a while. Those older DVDs are what made E great.


I just looked through all the pages on E's site. The deal that they are offering is that you get the deck free if you buy all three DVDs. Funny that that wasn't mentioned before either. The deck by itself is $30.00. I might pick up the deck later. Unless the reviews are absolutely stellar for the DVDs I don't think I'll pick them up. You never know though, They may be really good. Time will tell.
Another thing that I don't understand is, Why no download? They offer almost everything they have as a download. Heck they practically pioneered downloads for the magic community. And now they suddenly stop? Why?

Weird stuff.

Tim
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The effects on the DVD and lecture notes are far beyond your abilities. (They require mastery of the mechanic's grip.) It would only break your heart.
Sincerely,
Darwin Ortiz.......(This post has got to be in my top 5.)
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On 2008-04-17 10:34, Tim Jahn wrote:
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On 2008-04-17 05:27, Chappo wrote:
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On 2008-04-16 10:30, Tim Jahn wrote:
Yeah me too. I'll buy a few books.

The whole "Site problem due to OVERWHELMING response" thing seems kind of far fetched. Not a few hours after this "Supposedly" went down I had a e-mail from E complete with graphics and links about the new release date and all the details.
That was pretty fast Huh?

Even if it did happen it was probably due to the system having a bug in checkout for the new item. Not "OVERWHELMING" response.

Tim


My thoughts exactly... To be honest, I think you've hit the nail on the head. Note how that an enormous email post was sent out following the alleged problem. Using such terms as 'server overload' ' sheer weight of customers'. Smile


They seemed to have everything ready to go huh. There hasn't been that quick a response by anyone since the cops surrounded Lee Harvey Oswald in the movie theater.
E's kind of losing it from where I'm sitting. They lost most of their big names and now seem to think that MTV is the best answer. I really like a lot of the stuff that E has put out in the past. I haven't seen Brad in anything for quite a while. Those older DVDs are what made E great.


I just looked through all the pages on E's site. The deal that they are offering is that you get the deck free if you buy all three DVDs. Funny that that wasn't mentioned before either. The deck by itself is $30.00. I might pick up the deck later. Unless the reviews are absolutely stellar for the DVDs I don't think I'll pick them up. You never know though, They may be really good. Time will tell.
Another thing that I don't understand is, Why no download? They offer almost everything they have as a download. Heck they practically pioneered downloads for the magic community. And now they suddenly stop? Why?

Weird stuff.

Tim


Actually, the free deck if you buy all 3 dvd has been around from the start. But realistically, I believe Ellusionist knows that they would only get ~20 dollars per dvd if even that. So, the package for all 3 includes the 3 dvds for 20 bucks each along with the deck for the full price of 30 dollars. BUT, for people that buy the deck separately and then later on decide they would like to purchase the dvds, they have to pay the increased price of 30 dollars for each dvd.
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I like the dvds Crash Course 1 and 2 and think they are worth the 29 dollar price tag. I know that these guys do this for a living so I value their work...but for me the price is too high currently...who knows what will happen in the future...besides..i probably couldn't do the tricks anyway:)
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On 2008-04-17 10:59, Newb2 wrote:
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On 2008-04-17 10:34, Tim Jahn wrote:
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On 2008-04-17 05:27, Chappo wrote:
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On 2008-04-16 10:30, Tim Jahn wrote:
Yeah me too. I'll buy a few books.

The whole "Site problem due to OVERWHELMING response" thing seems kind of far fetched. Not a few hours after this "Supposedly" went down I had a e-mail from E complete with graphics and links about the new release date and all the details.
That was pretty fast Huh?

Even if it did happen it was probably due to the system having a bug in checkout for the new item. Not "OVERWHELMING" response.

Tim


My thoughts exactly... To be honest, I think you've hit the nail on the head. Note how that an enormous email post was sent out following the alleged problem. Using such terms as 'server overload' ' sheer weight of customers'. Smile


They seemed to have everything ready to go huh. There hasn't been that quick a response by anyone since the cops surrounded Lee Harvey Oswald in the movie theater.
E's kind of losing it from where I'm sitting. They lost most of their big names and now seem to think that MTV is the best answer. I really like a lot of the stuff that E has put out in the past. I haven't seen Brad in anything for quite a while. Those older DVDs are what made E great.


I just looked through all the pages on E's site. The deal that they are offering is that you get the deck free if you buy all three DVDs. Funny that that wasn't mentioned before either. The deck by itself is $30.00. I might pick up the deck later. Unless the reviews are absolutely stellar for the DVDs I don't think I'll pick them up. You never know though, They may be really good. Time will tell.
Another thing that I don't understand is, Why no download? They offer almost everything they have as a download. Heck they practically pioneered downloads for the magic community. And now they suddenly stop? Why?

Weird stuff.

Tim


Actually, the free deck if you buy all 3 dvd has been around from the start. But realistically, I believe Ellusionist knows that they would only get ~20 dollars per dvd if even that. So, the package for all 3 includes the 3 dvds for 20 bucks each along with the deck for the full price of 30 dollars. BUT, for people that buy the deck separately and then later on decide they would like to purchase the dvds, they have to pay the increased price of 30 dollars for each dvd.


Thanks for clearing that up about the free deck being avalable from the start. I honestly had not heard about it until the release. Sorry for the error.

Tim
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The effects on the DVD and lecture notes are far beyond your abilities. (They require mastery of the mechanic's grip.) It would only break your heart.
Sincerely,
Darwin Ortiz.......(This post has got to be in my top 5.)
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Doesn't FREE mean legally as "without obligation to buy or purchase anything"? Many years ago I worked for a marketing company who got a call from the BBB in regards to the sale pitch staff were using. "If you purchase this today, you will receive this absolutely free!" The BBB had received complaints so they contacted our manager to inform them that the legal definition for "Free" is without obligation to buy or purchase anything. This was about 20 years ago. I have seen so much advertising using the word free that it has always made me wonder if our company was the only company ever picked on for that.
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Doesn't FREE mean legally as "without obligation to buy or purchase anything"? Many years ago I worked for a marketing company who got a call from the BBB in regards to the sale pitch staff were using. "If you purchase this today, you will receive this absolutely free!" The BBB had received complaints so they contacted our manager to inform them that the legal definition for "Free" is without obligation to buy or purchase anything. This was about 20 years ago. I have seen so much advertising using the word free that it has always made me wonder if our company was the only company ever picked on for that.


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Don't grocery stores do that all the time? "Buy one, get one free" You can't just go in and grab a free one. I guess that could also be marketed as "50% off", but I see signs all the time for "buy one, get one free"

I suppose that free can be a condition of purchase. This certainly isn't the first time or company to offer a promotion like this.
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I realize that guys.(lol) I see it all the time as well. I just thought I would bring up something that happened to us several years ago. It was strange at the time, and I have never heard it happening to anyone else. We had to change our sales pitch from "Free" to, "as a bonus with no extra cost" Smile
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How about getting that "Free" toy in your box of Frosted Flakes cereal??

The box advertises that there is "NO PURCHASE NECESSARY" and it s written right on the box.... Can you just go into the store, open the box, take the "Free" toy and walk out of the store with your newly acquired "Free" toy???

Isn't this legal to do if it states "NO PURCHASE NECESSARY"????
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"Holy Cow man"(lol) Didn't know I was going to raise your blood pressure.(lol)

By the way, you can just mail in your request from the cereal company and they will send you your toy for free. Smile If not, let me know. I'll call them and give them a piece of my mind.(lol)
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