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AntonDreaming
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On 2008-07-17 09:22, Bob Sanders wrote:
Thumb tip color is really something that only beginners value. Once you have confidence in your magic it really is no longer a consideration.


I love statements like this... they make me laugh and laugh and laugh all day long.

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Otherwise, I use Vernet thumb tips. (And I buy over 100 at a time! Someday, the cleaners will ask what they are. LOL It still may take a while. I've been doing this 47 years!)


What are you doing with 100 at a time? You lose them often?
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On 2008-07-22 23:49, CaptainKid wrote:
Note there are no unrealistic TTs for sale, as much as people say it doesn't matter...


Apparently you haven't seen some of the old metal ones. We used to carry them in our magic shop and they looked like the end of cigar tube (with a dent for the nail) painted flesh color. They were also to small to fit on any normal persons thumb and would possibly be a challenge for even many people's fingers.

As for TT I've always been partial to Vernet too.
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Ok, if I hear one more TT expert story I'm going to puke in a green TT. Been in magic almost 20 years and I have read too many posts by magicians twirling their green six shooter TT or stories from magicians about other magicians doing the same. I think we get the idea. It's amusing to us, but let's try to advance the art a minute instead of pistol whipping. If your going to do that I think you should have to show it to your lay audience at the end and convince them you used it. If you have time to paint a tip green, you probably have time to paint it the correct flesh color for your hand. Why? Maybe because some people know what it is. Maybe because people behind you may see it from across the room. Maybe because tv specials are making it more known and will continue to. Think about the fact many of these stories still exist more or less to serve as great monuments of our self-proclaimed, finger-flinging greatness. Keep in mind some of these glorious examples involved a magician using a green TT in front of a group of other conditioned magicians. They would be easier to fool than lay people. This reminds me of the quote Bruce Lee would make, "Board not hit back". Translation - the green TT is up there with picking your nose. You think your smooth, but only until someone hands you a handkerchief. I'll use the flesh color TT, thanks.

These stories could become our version of "The Aristocrats"!

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Agreed. I guess I just don't understand the mindset between of not using the most deceptive stuff out there. No most deceptive could be any number of things seeing as how if a tt looks good but doesn't make the work easy from you it is LESS deceptive. If it looks good and it lets you do the work then WHY NOT? Like I said before its not for the 99% that will never see it its for the one guy who will and who may ruin it.

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On 2008-09-09 10:32, SeanScottMagic wrote:
Ok, if I hear one more TT expert story I'm going to puke in a green TT. Been in magic almost 20 years and I have read too many posts by magicians twirling their green six shooter TT or stories from magicians about other magicians doing the same. I think we get the idea. It's amusing to us, but let's try to advance the art a minute instead of pistol whipping. If your going to do that I think you should have to show it to your lay audience at the end and convince them you used it. If you have time to paint a tip green, you probably have time to paint it the correct flesh color for your hand. Why? Maybe because some people know what it is. Maybe because people behind you may see it from across the room. Maybe because tv specials are making it more known and will continue to. Think about the fact many of these stories still exist more or less to serve as great monuments of our self-proclaimed, finger-flinging greatness. Keep in mind some of these glorious examples involved a magician using a green TT in front of a group of other conditioned magicians. They would be easier to fool than lay people. This reminds me of the quote Bruce Lee would make, "Board not hit back". Translation - the green TT is up there with picking your nose. You think your smooth, but only until someone hands you a handkerchief. I'll use the flesh color TT, thanks.

These stories could become our version of "The Aristocrats"!

Thanks,
Sean


Couldn't agree more.
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My fave is a soft tip vernet, XL, but I have around 6 harder, and 1 softer 1 for the mouth...

I have a question about the green TT and so on.
Is the misdirection what prevents the audience from seeing the TT, or is it always covered? I saw a guy on youtube taht used a TT, but it was always covered by the way he waved and displayed the hanky, and disposed of it off camera, so I was curious as to what you guys deem "they never see it".

My misdirection is good, but 3/5 times, if their looking for it, theyll find it.

A magician shop owner at a local fair did a TT vanish, and whilst I didn't have the heart to say how obvious it looked, I was wondering if other people view me with that light,
OR if the very thought of a TT doesn't occur to them,
OR, am I placing too much faith in the TT invisibilty powers, and should I concentrate more on performance which doesn't give the audience n actual chance to see it, ie, its always covered up...
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To answer Dragon74 .. Yes.
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Another vote for the Vernet hard XL. I've tried on several, it is the fit that counts for me first, then the storage capacity. That is of course when I'm not using those thumbs that light up red.
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I have a green camouflage TT I got years ago. Not sure why. But, I used it for practice in the mirror. When I couldn't see it, I was happy with my technique.
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On 2008-09-20 02:12, Christopher Kavanagh wrote:
I have a green camouflage TT I got years ago. Not sure why. But, I used it for practice in the mirror. When I couldn't see it, I was happy with my technique.


So from this I gather it was covered by the silk?

Or it took you so long to practice you eventually went blind?
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The green camouflage TT's should only be used for campsite shows in the woods. Or if you're a military officer or member of special forces.

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The green camouflage tips were made as a novelty item. Chazpro called them the "Stealth TT" and gave them away free with orders.

When I first got it, I met with some magic friends and asked them to critique my TT silk vanish.

I used a pull and asked what they thought. I hooked my thumbs in my pants pockets when I asked. One fellow said he liked it, but he could see the TT when I made the display at the end showing my hands empty. I pulled my thumb from my pocket with the green TT on and said I was still working on it and pulled a red silk from out of the TT.

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How about good finger tips? I need to let go of an object with one hand, but give the appearance of never letting go. It is very important that audience thinks I never let go. The way I grip with my hand I can see my fingers to about the second joint. Thumb is not exposed just the fingers. If you hold a piece of paper at the top, this is the view the audience will see.
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Fredi-up tips are the most realistic. vernet are the best quality though
http://www.fredi-upmagic.com or google fredi-up magic

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If you need something that will take some heat, I like the Fun Inc. tips that Hank Moorehouse sold me, years ago. The surface on these things were almost a matte finish. I just don't want a glossy tip, sometimes. But, for most things, I could use a a metal tip with the paint sanded off.

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Rather than everyone jumping on the bandwagon and saying the same thing, either you're doing it wrong, or get this one...the one question that needed to be asked, that hasn't is, "What are you using the thumb tip for?" the OP did indicate that he wanted a realistic one for the expressed purpose of not using it in the typical fashion. (I don't think a green, plaid or hard one would work as a finale to Finger Fantasies!)
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On 2008-11-09 14:22, JBetts97 wrote:
Fredi-up tips are the most realistic. vernet are the best quality though
http://www.fredi-upmagic.com or google fredi-up magic

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This has already been posted. Read the thread.

Posted: Nov 12, 2008 11:36pm
Something that few people take into consideration is that your skin changes color, depending on many factors -- the weather, your physical condition, etc.

The chief advantage of the Fredi-up product is that it looks like a real thumb. The chief disadvantage is that it is rather expensive. If you don't get the color right the first time, it may take you several weeks to get the one you need, by exchanging, etc.

One thing you might consider is painting your own tip. Krylon makes a spray called "fusion" that will adhere to plastics. Once you have a base coat of that, you can paint the tip any color you want.
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Here is what I do. I use a hard plastic TT and sand it with sandpaper all over.
80 to 100 grit. What does this do? It takes away the shine and smoothness. Look at your own real thumb. Does it reflect light?........ No.

Then I get some lipstick. I experimented with different colors and found one that matches my skin color. I dab a little lipstick like you are making dots with a marker on the TT. Rub it in with your finger and finish off with some paper towels to get all excess lipstick off.

Look at your hands. Are they all one color or do you see variegated skin tone colors? That's what the sanding does. The lipstick adheres to the sanding marks and you will have varying degrees of color on your TT. Just like your real thumb. This works great if you are darker of lighter skinned. Just get the right color lipstick. I don't know about you but I feel a little more confident and comfortable when I have a TT that matches my skin tone. That's just me.
Give this a try. You can even put clear nail polish on the nail if you must, I don't.
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