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Martello
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Just wondering if anyone has seen or used the "flex out" backdrop? An example of one that I am interested in for library shows is advertised on ebay.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie......=sidebar

Seems like it would be a quick set up and easy transport.

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Hello Arthur:The technology of that one looks very cool.However,IMO it is meant as stated...as a photographers backdrop.

I do not want to discourage you if you feel that it would be useful to YOU...but if you plan on doing years of formal shows...the JJ Magic Backdrop is a great investment.

I believe Jeff offers a simpler Mylar Backdrop for a little less[$100 less I think] than the custom backdrop.

I think a professional looking set will pay for itself before long.I wish I had something like the JJ BD years ago...I probably would have been able to upsell many shows.

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Arthur
From what I have heard, I dunno personally.

This is a photographers background, pirnted backgrounds like that, they look good in photos, in real life, they do not look as nice.

I have looked at those too, on the internet, been told otherwise, so I just wanted you aware.
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Thanks for the comments guys. I saw a muslin backdrop that was used at a Kidabra conference that was made by backdrops.us. It got nice comments and I checked it on their website. Fairly inexpensive!! Think I am going to go with that one since I already have the supports.

Arthur
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On 2008-04-27 11:17, Skip Way wrote:
I went to a boat shop and bought a 5 lb ingot boat anchor - It looks like a silver or nickel bar with an eyelet on one end. Cost me around $8.00. I tied a piece of rope to it and hang it gently on the lower height adjustment knob. It lowers the center of gravity so the screen isn't so easy to blow over. I still try to keep it backed up to a wall, but even out in the open, it has yet to fall over on me.


I need to append this statement. For the first time in the 3 years that I've been using this backdrop outdoors, I had to take it down due to strong gusts of wind. The added weight kept it upright but the gusts would blow the angled arms inward creating a sail effect. Moderate spring and summer breezes have never been a problem, but those flag-popping gusts finally got the best of me. I want to be fair with anyone considering this unit for outdoors.
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I don't think I would ever use mine outdoors. Too much could go wrong. Of course, I don't perform much outdoors anyway if I can help it. Thanks for the tip though!
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Yes,thank-you Skip for the update.I'll be using mine[first time outdoors] for a backyard party next week..if the conditions are right.The client told me that there is a garage wall I can set up in front of.

Hey Chad..how are you making out with toting your rig?

Best.
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The duffel bags are great because I am still horrible at rolling the thing up straight! But that's just me - I'm defective in the neatness area -same with making up a bed straight - I can't do it.

I now have two of the duffel bags - one for each. I appreciate the tip Rich. I ordered one from the link you gave me and then I found the same things down at the local Army Supply Store as well and got a second one while the first one was on the way.

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I'm going to the IBM/SAM convention and hope to see these backdrops in person. The website for the back drops says the trim is held on with velcro and can be switched out.

Whe the trim and evrything is attached and in the bag, realistically, how long does it take to go from the carry bag to being fully set up. I guess what I'm asking, do you have to play with the trim during the set up?

Thanks,

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My trim has never moved - it is always in place as I unroll the backdrop. I can set mine up in around 1 minute or less, and I am still just starting to use them in shows. By the end of the summer I will probably be able to cut that time in half after doing it 100 or so times. Tear down for me takes an extra minute or two because I am horrible at rolling things up neatly. But my larger duffel bag takes care of that.

When you see them in person, you will be very impressed.

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Howdy Rich...good name!

I elected not to even use the trim/tiebacks.I just think my backdrop looks better hanging straight down...but that's a personal choice.

Now,as far as your question re: set up time...for me I got it down to about a minute.That's easy.

The original problem I had was rolling the the curtain up tight enough so that I could stuff it back the very attractive ...but very tight bag.

It's a chore man...not good when you are are on a tight schedule.So,I solved my problem by buying a 42"x25" black duffle bag.Now I can just roll it up and drop it in the large duffle bag...which by the way is big enough to hold other items...if you wish.
I think I mentioned these points before in ths thread.

Also,I made a small one inch slit in the center seam of the black part of the backdrop.This enables me the view the audience as I am setting up behind the curtain...thus I am able to view potential helper's,as well as potential problem guests.

I love this rig...Can you tell?lol

Rich
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Thanks for the info guys...very helpful. This will probably be my big purchase for the year.

Rich B.
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I just picked up my new Custom Magic backdrop today, on the way to a show. I set it up first time in about a minute, and boy, does is look SHARP! The materials used for the drapes are superb, non-crease, and rich colours. It's hard to imagine any backdrop being easier to use than this, and as soon as it went up, the mother of the birthday child gasped in awe! Jeff Jones' concept is brilliantly simple, yet practical.
Jeff's website doesn't begin to do justice to the beauty and theatricality of the backdrops. If I'd have seen this, I'd have bought it on sight years ago - as it is, I can't believe I've not invested in one of Jeff's backdrops before. Quite perfect, I have to give it 10/10.
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Potty best of luck to you!...The Key word you used in your post..was 'investment'.For a working performer I do not think you can make a better investment.This backdrop can transform a fairly mundane performing area into a showplace..in minutes!

I also like being able to set up my show in privacy...surounded on 3 sides by the curtain if needed.Also,one sneaky little thing I did was...I made a tiny slit at the center seam so I can view the audience and look for appropriate helpers...and also recognize who to avoid.

Rich
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You're spot on, Rich. What I really noticed with the new backdrop was how much tidier my set looks. I agree, this is a real investment, it will no doubt pay for itself in extra bookings in no time.
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