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rtgreen
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Think it is time for a reality check for me. I was looking at Randy Charach's book and he states the he charges $2,500 for an hour of strolling or a 30 minute standup at a corporate Christmas party and can sometimes work 3 show a night at this time of year. Like everyone, I think, my prices tend to be higher at Christmas because of the higher demand, but I've never topped $1,000 for a 30 minute show - and that amount is not typical, but is closer to the $500 - $700 range.

No need to go into pricing details here, I know some people are guarded when it comes to discussing money, but is Randy's rate considered close to the norm? or is he saying when you have enough experience you can get these kind of rates?

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Richard
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I've never heard of anyone making that kind of money for walk around in my area.

Your prices are more common to what I've heard of for a lot of the corporate holiday party type gigs around here, but I do have a very good friend that gets $2500 for his stage show (more of an exception, not the rule - plus, he's got a great agent.)

Personally, I'd never book 3 shows in one day, too many unknowns can creep into your schedule.

Here's another opinion: http://www.magicwebchannel.com/dennis_getRich.htm
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Hi Richard,
I have known Randy for upwards of 30 years now and let's just say that most of us here like to keep him at the other end of a ten foot pole. I'm not saying that it is an out and out lie, I guess if he were to find someone gullible enough to pay that much it could very well be true. I would not consider those rates to be even close to the "norm".

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Hi Richard -

I've sent you a PM.

- Donald
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On 2008-05-02 16:01, Mr Amazeo wrote:
Here's another opinion: http://www.magicwebchannel.com/dennis_getRich.htm


And here's another opinion about Dennis Regling (read the whole thread):

Cafe thread titled... Article on Marketing for Magicians

- Donald
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On 2008-05-02 15:30, rtgreen wrote:
Think it is time for a reality check for me. I've never topped $1,000 for a 30 minute show - and that amount is not typical, but is closer to the $500 - $700 range.

you have enough experience you can get these kind of rates?


Richard,
Not saying that Randy does or does not get these rates - I do not know him. But remember that there are all levels of show business. There are no name speakers who get $5,000 - $10,000 plus expenses for a 60 minute talk. Bill Cosby made $50,000 a few years ago for just showing up at an event - not doing his routine, just being there.

Are any of them better than you? I don't know. Do they know how to get that amount and satisfy a client's needs. Yes. It really depends on what market you choose to work, what they are used to paying, and how you position yourself to be worth that.

Imagine, $50,000 just for showing up. Heck, I'd do my whole show for that! Smile

BTW - It was revealed on another thread so I don't feel the need to keep it quiet any longer. Most of you are familiar with Gigmasters. If you want to get an idea of what people quote, simply go there, do a search and click on the quick quote button on any listing. It doesn't show you the final agreed upon price, but it does give you an idea of what others are quoting.
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I wish I could get paid for just showing up! That's not to say I haven't been offered good sums of money to just go away . . .

:)

Thanks,
Richard
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Whatever the market will bear...
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Keep in mind some key events for companies they pay $20,000 to $50,000 and up for catering bills, $10 to $20 grand in door prizes and giveaways... Why should the entertainment only cost $200??????

The key is getting into the area of the market that spend this amount on events...
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Bingo! ...and asking for and getting what you are asking for congruently and can DELIVER ON! (Too, as stated before, it is also a "mindset" thing.)

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I don't do corporate events of this magnitude (and I also don't do adult-only shows), but I know some performers who get this type of money.

However, I would suggest that if a person was getting that type of money, their customer service would be at a level where they aren't trying to cram a bunch of different customers into a single evening. They are more likely to focus entirely on servicing a single customer to their very best, rather than trying to juggle three.

I could be wrong, but I believe that performers who command a higher fee think and behave in a different way.

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Only Elliott Spitzer the X governor of New York would pay that kind of money, and for that money he wouldn't expect you to perform just magic for him. LOL
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Al,

You be surprise who will pay the larger fees. If they like your style and they want you at thier event... The fee does not really matter as much as one may think.

Keep in mind as magician/entertainers we see all type of magic over and over but a buyer might think that a particular style and trick is cool or new and they want to have it!

Donald,
Depending on the type of event/magic performed I might only do one or two a day... The larger stuff usually one a day the close up magic 2 or 3 events are fine...
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Curtis
Only you live in La La Land. I live among working class folk, and on rare occasions I get $250 an hour. I believe that the richest man in the world is the Sultan of Bruni, someone should ask Silly Billy how much the Sultan of Bruni pays for a kids birthday party in his Central Park South Hotel.
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On 2008-05-04 14:19, Al Angello wrote:
Curtis
Only you live in La La Land. I live among working class folk, and on rare occasions I get $250 an hour.


How do I relocate to La La Land? Smile

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The money "IS" there... you just have to know how to ask for it and then deliver on the perceived value invested in.

I live in a SMALL to Medium sized town with VERY FEW Big Corporations (Other than the Casinos, and there is NOT even a “ton” of those…) and still ‘some’ say the same thing (That there is no money) and yet other of us are getting real money on a regular basis… go figure. I guess it is like I said… often it is a mindset thing.
It’s up to YOU.

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By the way, already UNDERSTAND that not all will ‘agree’. THAT is part n’ parcel the POINT! Henry Ford had it right.
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Al, again when I lived in NYC there are big fees to be sought for. Also I have had clients who had me in smaller parts of the US that paid LA prices.... Smile

Think big and become things small and be small....

Will every client pay high fees? No...
Are there clients out there that will pay a high fee for good entertainment? YES ...
So which one do you want to hunt out?
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On 2008-05-04 16:45, TheDean wrote:
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By the way, already UNDERSTAND that not all will ‘agree’. THAT is part n’ parcel the POINT! Henry Ford had it right.


Just for the record, Henry Ford was also a rabid anti-semite and good friend to Hitler, so I would say he had it wrong in a fundamental way.
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...didn't think Hitler would come upin this post! HA!@!
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Richard
Some here say that $2,500 for 30 minutes of walk around is a no brainer, and others here who know Randy personally say that he is full of baloney. I would be very interested to find out from you just how easy it is to get that $2,500 for 30 minutes of walk around magic, and to book three of those gigs for the same day would be a real trick.
Lots of Ruck
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