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whitjm5 Loyal user of magic in Jacksonville, FL 222 Posts |
Is it okay to practice for wife/kids? I don't want to ruin magic for the kids, especially, but I do like another set of eyes to tell me if they catch anything funny or have suggestions. Any advice?
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Art190 Elite user 447 Posts |
I always ask my mom and dad for advice. Whenever I have something new to show them, I do the trick to them and they tell me what they thought. Even though they know how a couple of things are done, I still end up blowing them away. It's funny because my dad knows what a double lift is but I stopped using it in tricks for a while and then one day I used it and he had forgot about the double lift and fooled him If I had a wife, I would probably ask her for advice. I wouldn't tell the kids becuase as you said, it might ruin the fun for them. Whenever I ask my parents for advice, I also ask them if they saw anything funny or if I flashed or something..then I try and improve on that.
Good luck, Art |
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Art190 Elite user 447 Posts |
By the way, welcome to the Café. This is a great place. You'll like it a lot! Have fun.
Art |
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Jaz Inner circle NJ, U.S. 6111 Posts |
I don't practice in front of anyone.
When I'm learning a new effect I practice alone, then rehearse, and then after I feel I'm ready I may perform for my family and ask for opinions. I don't always believe them however . |
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Gerald Veteran user Arkansas 325 Posts |
Jaz has a terrific point. You always prepare to the best of your ability and then perform before a spectator, no matter who it is. You might think of it as a "dress rehearsal", but you never "practice" in front of the laity.
Listen to Jaz. He gives excellent advice. Cheers, Gerald |
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cpbartak Special user Mooresville, NC 941 Posts |
Some mentalism requires people just to attempt to learn the properties. For example, I can't see how anyone could practice contact mind reading alone, or really any mentalism that relies on psychological signals. I have one person that has graciously agreed to be my practice partner. But even then I know that different people are more difficult to read than others, and I have no clue how far out to extend my circle of practice partners. I don't like ruining the magic experience for others. Its a difficult balance.
Some people hear voices.. Some see invisible people.. Others have no imagination whatsoever.
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Brent McLeod Inner circle 1792 Posts |
As mentioned-Practice in private
Rehearse in front of family once comfortable with your practice Then video your act-This may surprise or shock how you look & sound etc but its a great way to learn Then perform in [public!!! |
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David Todd Inner circle 2328 Posts |
This may be beyond what you're asking about in terms of who to perform for to get feedback , but ...
I think if you can cultivate a working relationship with someone who teaches acting or other theatrical arts (dance, mime, circus arts) and get them to be your coach it would be helpful. Someone with that sort of training is not just going to be looking at whether the tricks "work" (from a technical sense) but also will be able to give you input on how you look and move when you are doing the act and give you valuable suggestions for improving the dramatic impact of your act . Not easy to find such a person and you may have to pay them to watch your act and give notes , but I would think it would be worth it in the long run. Magic is about one of the only theatrical arts where people try to go it alone without a director or a coach . Actors and dancers and mimes all work with directors who can see them and give a clear critique of what they need to improve about their performance. Enrolling in an acting class or theater arts class at a local college might be the easiest way. An acting class is going to give you valuable info. anyway, and then after you've been in the class for a while and gotten to know the instructor you might be able to ask them to view your act privately after the regular class hours to give you specific notes on your performance. |
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captainkk New user 12 Posts |
I practice in front of a mirror first, then video myself. What I've also been doing is recording myself to hear my patter, it helps me get the patter part of the act flowing smoothly. After I get it down, I then put on the show for my wife and kids.
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MagicMikeMartin New user 61 Posts |
A few comments as an observer....I frequent a local magic store....about a year ago I met a guy who was new to magic...and just started working at the magic store about "two weeks ago"...at the time he knew a few effects and was understandably nervous in his presentations.....
flash forward a year...I was there this past weekend...he had a crowd of 20 people around him...while doing a spongeball effect he lifted a lady's watch....his presentation was flawless and incredibly confident..... I made a point to congradulate him on his success and being a fantastic performer....he went on to tell me that it was nothing but doing it over and over and over and over again..... I left wishing I had the time to work in a magic shop....just for the practice/rehersal time alone! |
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JackScratch Inner circle 2151 Posts |
Always have a designated director. Someone who knows magic would be best. Someone who knows staging would be even better.
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Ken The Klown Regular user 187 Posts |
I practice in front of my wife and my daughter. Both are very good at helping me revise moves and directions. They are dependable REAL people who enjoy helping me out.
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montymagi Special user Slidell La 752 Posts |
When I'm learning something new I practice utill I have the moves down. Then without the moves I practice my lines until they flow naturally. At that point I put them all together infront of a mirrior.
Then I show my wife without telling her how it is done (she and I have a deal and she is very critical and does not go easy on me). When I pass her test I do my act for my wife and kids. I do a lot of children entertainment and it really helps to get my kids reaction. |
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Aaron Little Loyal user Lexington KY 263 Posts |
I practice in front of my wife and the web cam. She is brutally honest with me, which is what I need.
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HusssKarson Loyal user Ca, US 265 Posts |
Don't pratice in front of wife, she'll get bored with it. Practice with your girlfriend.. you can always change one!!
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jeffdell New user Nashua, NH 66 Posts |
I practice in front of my sister and my parents first, usually. The problem I tend to have is with my patter. Even though something is funny to me its often not funny to others!
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mkmager New user 64 Posts |
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On 2009-01-08 00:59, HusssKarson wrote: ^^ 2nd this! |
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Servaas Koomen Regular user 138 Posts |
I also find that my girlfriend/wife gets bored. so we made an agreement that I show some stuff from time to time. that way we both have more fun, and she is also very honest.
I just practice, eventually in front of a mirror. then I pick some random people, from work or family to finetune my performance. and later on I plan to get a full act of 15 minutes straight together but I'm not there yet...
"The last three or four reps is what makes the muscle grow. This area of pain divides the champion from someone else who is not a champion. That's what most people lack, having the guts to go on and just say they'll go through the pain no matter what" A.
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WilburrUK Veteran user 389 Posts |
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On 2009-10-03 10:45, servaas wrote: You have a girlfriend AND a wife.. I guess it's a good thing that they get bored quickly then ! |
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mkmager New user 64 Posts |
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On 2009-10-04 08:33, WilburrUK wrote: ;) oops, let the cat out of the bag? LOL |
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